Who Knew Where Caylee Was?

awaitingjustice....I like the way you have laid out all the facts on this Dominic Casey. I wish that this could be presented to the jurors in such a fashion. Dom Casey knew because one of the Anthony's told him. There was no psychic, that is a bunch of crap, which overflows when one of the Anthony family opens their mouth.
I believe that there was probably at least two cell phones that were not billed or traceable to D.C. or the Anthony's during this "body search". Somebody expected some "results" from this expedition that DC made, and did not want to be linked in any way to finding Caylee's body. If DC had been successful, it is extremely doubtful that the Anthony family would have allowed any word to get out. There would have been an immediate cover-up by the Anthony family and J.B. I believe they would have done their best to hide the discovery that a small skull with duct tape attached to long hair that was found so near to their own home at a location where Casey used to bury pets. They may have arrived at a plan of action ahead of time, just in case D.Casey found what Casey-the-evil-Anthony had done with poor little Caylee.

What I find interesting or annoying may be a better word, is CA's insistence that DC's and Ms. Lucas' phone records were verified as existing and coinciding with the dte and time stamps on JH's video time stamp. That is absolutely NOT true. They had NO phone call on the psychic's phone records. I do believe DC was lying about who he was talking too. I don't know who it was, what he knew or didn't know. However, I am certain he was lying about who he was talking too and what he knew.
AJ, you know I am very open to any and all possibilities with this case. I think ANYTHING is possible. I do find most of what you are saying, even VERY, VERY possible. However, I do think this case is much simpler than it appears. I'm not sure there it is as involved as complex as some of the discovery leads us to speculate on. I think it may only appear as such because so many people are lying and it's hard to know what is true and not true.
Finally, I totally agree with you, the state is going to make this a very streamlined case of keep it simple. CASEY did this, she lied, lied and lied some more to cover her crime. Period! Now we will just have to wait and see how they interpret the evidence and the story it tells.

AJ, I don't know. I didn't take it that way. The next thing JM says is, he never found her, did he? And CA says no. I just didn't feel it was enunciated that way, IMO. Doesn't mean you aren't correct AT ALL! I do believe DC did a lot of slimy things, knew and knows more than he is saying and is covering up something. However, I just wondering if all he is covering is his feelings for CA. I really believe they had/have something going on. So, I feel he would lie, cheat or steal to make things better for CA. May be more than that, I just don't see it yet. But I'm still keeping any and all things open in my mind. I will NOT be shocked by ANYTHING at this point. Keep that brain athinking AJ. I love the way you make me think!

who knew...

1. KC.. cause she put her there
2. CA.. i wholeheartedly believe she knew!! SHE sent DC to look for the remains, and even blurted it out once.
3. GA.. i think he knows WAY more than he lets on.. no one is THAT stupid.. how did he KNOW to take gas to pick up the car from the impound lot????
4. LA.. they are all in this together, from early on.. he knew.
5. Jose Baez.. "his girl" told him everything, IF she were innocent, do you think the defense would be GRASPING at straws and trying the technicality defense?
6. Roy Kronk.. the "bystandard".. i will in no way call him innocent.. none of us are, but he happened upon this little angels discarded body, and couldnt get anyone to listen.

maybe CA, GA, LA, bozo, and DC didnt know "exactly" where the body was.. that is why it was still there to be recovered at all... IF they would have gotten their slimey hands on it, she would NEVER have been found!!! I believe this is the reason KC NEEDED out of jail so bad to go "search" for her daughter, they needed to know the exact location to find the body, and only she could lead them to it.....

yeah... my thought on that is that he never found her... i honestly dont think if he found her, she would have been found SOOO close to the anthony home...

she would have been discovered close to JG's home... IMHO..

and i am not sure about what CA says about " he didnt find her that day"... i will have to go back and read in what context it was stated... as i dont remember what was being asked of her at that time... okay... went back and listened.. and i cannot get any read off CA in that... she does say that day, but it may be because JM is specifically asking her about that day.. not sure..

BUT.. my fav on that part of the depo is at 6:32 when CA says "i dont DO hypotheticals.." HAHAHAHA>.. kinda like maybe someone else put a body in the car!!!

randilynn wrote:BUT.. my fav on that part of the depo is at 6:32 when CA says "i dont DO hypotheticals.." HAHAHAHA>.. kinda like maybe someone else put a body in the car!!!

She doesn't do hypotheticals because they would further prove that she is living in a fantasy world.

i concurr aj...

maybe moving the body in nov would have been a task too great..

i am with you on what he TOOK, left, moved, touched AT the remains site is scary!!!

I don't think DC was at the actual site...If he had info that she was near the house, that's why they were near that abandoned house...I don't think his idea of "near" expanded the xtra 150 feet farther down the area...JMO

randilynn wrote:who knew...

1. KC.. cause she put her there
2. CA.. i wholeheartedly believe she knew!! SHE sent DC to look for the remains, and even blurted it out once.
3. GA.. i think he knows WAY more than he lets on.. no one is THAT stupid.. how did he KNOW to take gas to pick up the car from the impound lot????
4. LA.. they are all in this together, from early on.. he knew.
5. Jose Baez.. "his girl" told him everything, IF she were innocent, do you think the defense would be GRASPING at straws and trying the technicality defense?
6. Roy Kronk.. the "bystandard".. i will in no way call him innocent.. none of us are, but he happened upon this little angels discarded body, and couldnt get anyone to listen.

maybe CA, GA, LA, bozo, and DC didnt know "exactly" where the body was.. that is why it was still there to be recovered at all... IF they would have gotten their slimey hands on it, she would NEVER have been found!!! I believe this is the reason KC NEEDED out of jail so bad to go "search" for her daughter, they needed to know the exact location to find the body, and only she could lead them to it.....

Sounds right to me!

Add this in about CA, when Greta asked her and George what Casey meant by feeling Caylee was 'Close to home' Cindy said


"And I think you can interpret that in a couple of ways. Close meaning within the central Florida area, close meaning in the neighborhood — I don’t think that’s what she means — close to maybe coming home. There’s a lot of different ways to interpret that. My interpretation is that she’s, hopefully, in this area."

See how she backs up and says she doesn't think Casey meant 'in the neighborhood'? Why not in the neighborhood, Cindy? Because that's where she was and Cindy knew it and slipped up and included the neighborhood because it should have been a logical thing to include.

I agree it was odd for George to take gas cans to the tow yard unless he had knowledge the car was out of gas. Why didn't he also think it could have broke down for some other reason, and take his tool kit with him too? Maybe she had a dead battery and left it there for that reason? That said, it would seem logical for George to go prepared with gas cans since Casey was always running out of gas, and since they claimed her gas gauge was broken. But LE proved the gas gauge was NOT broken. And when George got in the car he claimed the gas gauge registered Empty, so that's why he went and put gas in it. He didn't try to start the car, just saw the gauge on Empty after he turned the key. So much for George thinking the gauge was broken. So why are they lying about the gas gauge being broken? I have a theory on that, but I'm going to put it in the Miscellaneous Theory thread.

i think CA has consistantly, ACCIDENTALLY told the truth throughout this fiasco..

she has made several--what i call "freudian slips" over the last two years that to me, prove that she knows more than she will EVER let on.

remember the one about .. "caylee is not in the woods".. i posted it in the freudian slips thread, but cannot get it to post here... sorry, i am technically challenged.

thanks for bumping this thread lottie... i almost forgot about it.

How do we even know for sure thatr DC was actually conversing with anyone with his cell phone. He could have held it open and made "suitable" comments, pretending that he was speaking to someone "directing" his search. If no records exist on his cell phone(s) then he was faking a caller giving him directions, and just wanted a witness to his unsuccessful search. Could he have been deliberately staying away from the exact spot where Casey dumped Caylee, so later they could claim there was nothing in that area? Who knows, with a bunch of fools trying to save trampy Casey's skanky a$$.

I'm with you Cali...He purposefully didn't go to the X-act spot...There would have been too many questions to answer especially if Hoover discovered it accidently/on purpose(DC's purpose)....Didn't the Baez camp tell DC not to notify LE if anything was found...I think Hoover would have spilled the beans...After all by not finding Caylee it gave more time for the remains/evidence to deteriorate...therefore making it more difficult to put the blame on Mame(KC)...JMO

For me the bottom line in the DC thing is There is no psychic knowledge!

If Ginette Lucas was on the phone with him, she needs to be investigated to find out how she knew about the pavers in the woods. She's as much suspect for having some inside information as some think Kronk was in August.

Both Kronk and Lucas got it wrong by a few yards. Kronk got it right the second time. Kronk had to pee, Lucas had a dream. Oh please! Both of those excuses are like telling your teacher your dog ate your homework.

Lucas's focus on the pavers instead of where the body was found makes me wonder if that was simply to convince DC she was psychic and maybe he ventured out another day after another psychic suggestion without Hoover and found the body, let it slip to someone who then let it slip to Kronk who then found Caylee. All to keep the person who really knew where Caylee was a secret.

I believe the Anthonys including Casey wanted Caylee to be found. They wanted to get on with the nanny kidnap per the duct tape planted on Caylee for that very end.

Last night Nancy Grace was showing some clips from the jail house visits and from when Casey got arrested in her white shirt and gray slacks. It was good to see some of that again, especially since I had it on my DVR and could fast forward through NG's voice. I hadn't' seen them since they were new, and now that so much else has happened since, I got a new insight on some things.

Mainly how when Casey is sitting there waiting to get strip searched and locked away for murder, she has no regard for the hot seat she's on! All she can talk about is how the media was doing her, Cindy and George wrong! Nothing about her daughter! It was as if that was not the reason she was being locked up! It was like she was being locked up because it was just all part of a game the cops and media had to play while she bravely had to endure it.

She was concerned for Cindy that she didn't know there were cameras in the room when she talked to one of the cops. She was concerned that the media found out about the GJ hearing and that George had to go. Poor George and Cindy! It was all about what everyone else had done to them as if everyone else should be above board so the Anthonys don't get caught off guard. And it seemed to me like Casey didn't think all this up on her own, but rather the family had been complaining about it with each other and Casey was simply repeating what her parents had been angered about.

Why should Cindy care if there were cameras she was unaware of if all was she was doing was trying to provide information to honestly help find Caylee?

I was appalled how the focus was on the Anthonys being mistreated when a little child was missing, and it seemed to me they were over that and were only concerned about getting away with it and were trying to figure how to play their roles within expectations of what the cops were and were not allowed to do, and when they got blindsided, they got mad that things weren't going their way.

I feel like at that time the Anthonys knew their scheme to coverup Caylee's death was snowballing out of their control, and they were not happy about it one bit!

But it was really the replay of one of Cindy's 911 calls that gave me a eureka moment. She is making crying noises while telling George 'Caylee is missing!' twice, as if it's news that anything at all was wrong! But they had smelled the car earlier that day. And George, oddly enough, doesn't get excited when Cindy informs him Caylee is missing. Cindy is so busy getting it on tape that she is just finding out Caylee is missing, she has to be asked several times to put Casey on the phone. When she finally hears it, she is calm and suddenly not so upset and she is forced to give up her lead role and hand the phone over the Casey. Casey of course, then, is not upset either! And wasn't she just supposedly breaking down in front of Lee just a minute or two before that?

And that's what gave me new insight that, even though I've always thought this entire thing was a family affair, I do believe now that they had probably talked about what to expect once the 911 calls were made and how to play it toward the end game of getting Casey off scott-free.

I think the jail visit calls were rehearsed somewhat too, especially with all the note taking Cindy and Lee did. It was all a front to make it appear no one knew anything but Casey. Casey all but admitted it when she said she knew the visits had to be business to try to find Caylee! Jail visits are usually visits to comfort or show love and support for the inmate. Casey's visits were for propaganda! The emphasis George kept placing on Casey being in charge, was also too weird, as was the fact that Casey was telling her parents certain things, while knowingly being taped, without her lawyer present. She might as well have been telling the cops! And Cindy asked all the right questions, none of which really did anything but perpetuate that the nanny was elusive - as she had to be since there wasn't one.

Who, then knew where Caylee was? All of the Anthonys knew it and everyone else they incorporated into 'finding Caylee' was contrived by the Anthonys to keep all the Anthonys blameless.

I forgot about NG. Wasn't she supposed to have some kind of "new" BOMBSHELL information last night?

Now, about that 911 call...I some what agree with you Lottie...What took her so long to call 911 even after she had picked up KC...Wouldn't you like to know what transpired in Cindy's car during the ride home after Cindy so much as tore KC away from Tony's apartment??? That conversation is one we won't find out about, but betcha if I had been Cindy, I would have pulled over and called 911 right then and there...

Julie, NG's 'Bombshell' was her saying the Defense wanted some things omitted, then she showed some of the clips in question and the clips were the whole show. No bombshell, but you know NG was still opening her show with "Where is Caylee" long after her remains were found. LOL

Estee, I'd have called 911 right then and there when Casey didn't have Caylee and Casey hanging at Tony's so she was obviously not at work so she didn't need a nanny.

Cindy texted Casey that morning "Call me asap, major problem". Cindy had just found the car and she says 'major problem'? If that had been me, I'd have called the cops right then rather than text Casey about a 'major problem'. I'd have been telling the cops I had a major problem, not Casey.

How did she even know Casey was OK being as how she hadn't seen her and her car was in the tow yard and stank of death? I'd have been texting, Are you OK? or something like that? Or "I found your car. Where are you?" Sure Cindy had been talking to Casey, but how did she know Casey wasn't being held somewhere against her will, and was just lying to keep from alerting her kidnappers?

Lies, lies, all lies! LOL

Thanks Lottie, that's pretty much what I figured her Bombshell would be.