Defense Files Motion 11-23-09 Claiming Tim Miller Lied to the Court
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Defense Files Motion 11-23-09 Claiming Tim Miller Lied to the Court
Casey's Lawyers Making New Allegations
Monday, November 23, 2009 9:34:17 PM
ORLANDO -- There are new developments late this afternoon in the case against Casey Anthony and new accusations by her defense team.
In a motion just filed with the clerk's office, Jose Baez and Casey's defense team accused Tim Miller and his Texas Equusearch group of lying to the court.
Casey's defense lawyers are disputing the fact that Equusearch said only 32 people searched in the area where Caylee Anthony's remains were eventually found.
The defense says they've found more people in the course of their own investigation ..
And as a result, they want the judge to order Equusearch to turn over all records relating to their search for Caylee Anthony.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/23/casey39s_lawyers_making_new_allegations.html
Monday, November 23, 2009 9:34:17 PM
ORLANDO -- There are new developments late this afternoon in the case against Casey Anthony and new accusations by her defense team.
In a motion just filed with the clerk's office, Jose Baez and Casey's defense team accused Tim Miller and his Texas Equusearch group of lying to the court.
Casey's defense lawyers are disputing the fact that Equusearch said only 32 people searched in the area where Caylee Anthony's remains were eventually found.
The defense says they've found more people in the course of their own investigation ..
And as a result, they want the judge to order Equusearch to turn over all records relating to their search for Caylee Anthony.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/23/casey39s_lawyers_making_new_allegations.html
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I almost think the judge will allow this. I think TM has possibly tarnished his reputation with some people because of the stunts he pulled in the HC case. It makes me sad because I don't think TM had the intention of doing anything other than trying to find a way to get HaLeigh home.
I hope he stays out of investigation and gets solely back to searching because it could end up hurting a lot of victims in the future, possibly like this one.
I know if this is allowed, I may think twice before I go sign my name up to "help" because I don't want to be the focus of a defense attorney's claims I could have committed a crime!
I hope he stays out of investigation and gets solely back to searching because it could end up hurting a lot of victims in the future, possibly like this one.
I know if this is allowed, I may think twice before I go sign my name up to "help" because I don't want to be the focus of a defense attorney's claims I could have committed a crime!

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Re: Defense Files Motion 11-23-09 Claiming Tim Miller Lied to the Court
Tracey, I don't know whether or not the Judge will allow this, but I don't think he will consider anything concerning the HaLeigh case to influence his decision, UNLESS it is brought up by the defense (even then I have my doubts.... as it would be to be substantiated). These other people the defense claims to have "found" are much more suspect than TM IMO.
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ill tell you what... bozo is a pain in the ass... is this like a five year old asking their mother for the same thing over and over again.. hoping she will eventually tire of the question and GIVE IN... ???
you asked, court denied.. give up, go home, put on your big boy panties and act like a man... "your girl" is guilty.. live with it..
you asked, court denied.. give up, go home, put on your big boy panties and act like a man... "your girl" is guilty.. live with it..

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honestly.. i think these names, phone #s ect. of the searchers are actually off limits to the defense...
it can be claimed under "work product" just like the defense is claiming for DC and his little "search" 150 ft away from the remains.. i can imagine, all the searchers had to sign a release form, possibly a waiver of liability and a confidentiality clause.. due to the sensitive nature of the search.. IF they did, and they are discussing with the defense the areas searched and what was/was not found, they could very well be in violation of alegally binding agreement between both parties. .. making their testimony null and void!!!
IMHO.. i think these "searchers" are/were on crack.. i have seen the pics of the area where little caylee was found.. and you could have been standing 2 feet away, and not seen a thing.. which is a concept i hope is drilled into the jurors heads... she was there, she was always there, and if it werent for RK's tenacity, she would still be there....
it can be claimed under "work product" just like the defense is claiming for DC and his little "search" 150 ft away from the remains.. i can imagine, all the searchers had to sign a release form, possibly a waiver of liability and a confidentiality clause.. due to the sensitive nature of the search.. IF they did, and they are discussing with the defense the areas searched and what was/was not found, they could very well be in violation of alegally binding agreement between both parties. .. making their testimony null and void!!!
IMHO.. i think these "searchers" are/were on crack.. i have seen the pics of the area where little caylee was found.. and you could have been standing 2 feet away, and not seen a thing.. which is a concept i hope is drilled into the jurors heads... she was there, she was always there, and if it werent for RK's tenacity, she would still be there....

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I just wanted to make sure that I was clear on something. I don't think in ANY way, JS would use any of the things TM had done in the HaLeigh case in his decision. I guess I only said that because if anyone thinks Jose wouldn't try anything possible to get this in, think again! So, if there is a way JB can use TM and him being more of an "investigator" than just a searcher in this case, he will. He may very well also, try and use the instance with HaLeigh to discredit TM'S character, calling him dishonest or implying TM was and does "work with" LE. So, I guess i'm just trying to consider the slimy things Jose & Co., would/could try.
I don't think TM had/has or ever will have anything but the best of intentions when he looks for missing people. I'm just hoping TM will stick to searching and not do anything like the thing he tried in the HaLeigh case. There is just too much room for things to go wrong, as he is NOT an investigator. There are just a lot of slimy defense lawyers out there and any thing that can be used as a possible avenue to try and get their way, I think they'll try it.
Just my opinion and a worry in the back of my mind. I try and think of anything that could possibly hurt KC getting everything she deserves!
I don't think TM had/has or ever will have anything but the best of intentions when he looks for missing people. I'm just hoping TM will stick to searching and not do anything like the thing he tried in the HaLeigh case. There is just too much room for things to go wrong, as he is NOT an investigator. There are just a lot of slimy defense lawyers out there and any thing that can be used as a possible avenue to try and get their way, I think they'll try it.
Just my opinion and a worry in the back of my mind. I try and think of anything that could possibly hurt KC getting everything she deserves!

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Re: Defense Files Motion 11-23-09 Claiming Tim Miller Lied to the Court
I think the defense's purpose in filing this motion is two-fold.
First, the defense is trying to make it appear as though TM did lie and keep some exculpatory evidence from JB. He also gets his claim "out there" in the public to try to discredit TM's testimony that that area was, indeed, under water when these defense witnesses "searched" (if you can call it that).
However, and I can't speak for sure on this particular motion because I would have to go back and listen to the original hearing (and I just can't stomach that right now), but in many of the defense motions that JS has denied or granted only in part, he has stated that JB can always come back at a later date and re-file should things change. I suspect JB is re-filing hoping he can convince the judge that TM lied and get all the information he originally wanted.
I don't believe the judge will grant JB's motion. I think the State (or MN, as TM's attorney) will prove that these people were not assigned that area as a TES searcher... any searching they did was on their own.
I do have to say this one thing about Tim Miller. While I think he was wrong to insert himself in some of the ways in which he did with the HaLeigh case, I, in no way, believe him to be of questionable character. I believe he is a man with a broken heart who lost someone very dear to him, and wants to help others find some semblance of normalcy in their lives and begin to heal (whether the missing loved one is found dead or alive). Unfortunately, in the Haleigh case, I believe he thought he could help in a way that was best left to the investigators.
As always, JMO.
First, the defense is trying to make it appear as though TM did lie and keep some exculpatory evidence from JB. He also gets his claim "out there" in the public to try to discredit TM's testimony that that area was, indeed, under water when these defense witnesses "searched" (if you can call it that).
However, and I can't speak for sure on this particular motion because I would have to go back and listen to the original hearing (and I just can't stomach that right now), but in many of the defense motions that JS has denied or granted only in part, he has stated that JB can always come back at a later date and re-file should things change. I suspect JB is re-filing hoping he can convince the judge that TM lied and get all the information he originally wanted.
I don't believe the judge will grant JB's motion. I think the State (or MN, as TM's attorney) will prove that these people were not assigned that area as a TES searcher... any searching they did was on their own.
I do have to say this one thing about Tim Miller. While I think he was wrong to insert himself in some of the ways in which he did with the HaLeigh case, I, in no way, believe him to be of questionable character. I believe he is a man with a broken heart who lost someone very dear to him, and wants to help others find some semblance of normalcy in their lives and begin to heal (whether the missing loved one is found dead or alive). Unfortunately, in the Haleigh case, I believe he thought he could help in a way that was best left to the investigators.
As always, JMO.
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just a little tidbit from the recesses of my brain... may be helpful here...
TM is not a member of the prosecution, or defense.. he is an independent "contractor" of services per say.. and is NOT bound by discovery to the defense..
SO.. even IF TM did not turn over "exculpatory" evidence to JB, it is of no concern, concidering he is NOT bound to turn over anything to the defense... IF he turned in a report to the prosecution, it is then their baby to turn over to defense if need be.. but TM not turning things over to JB.. is a moot point..
i would like to reiterate here that JB is nothing more than a winey cry-baby, who needs to wear his bigboy panties when he leaves the house.
TM is not a member of the prosecution, or defense.. he is an independent "contractor" of services per say.. and is NOT bound by discovery to the defense..
SO.. even IF TM did not turn over "exculpatory" evidence to JB, it is of no concern, concidering he is NOT bound to turn over anything to the defense... IF he turned in a report to the prosecution, it is then their baby to turn over to defense if need be.. but TM not turning things over to JB.. is a moot point..
i would like to reiterate here that JB is nothing more than a winey cry-baby, who needs to wear his bigboy panties when he leaves the house.

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i <3 texas....
they have the death penalty and they USE IT!!!
they have the death penalty and they USE IT!!!

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