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Post by Wisteria on Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:23 am

I sincerely doubt Steven Powell will talk. I believe he was an accessory before and/or after the fact. He knows perfectly well if he gives up the location of the body, it will likely come back on him. If he was guaranteed immunity he might, but I doubt it. It serves his sick, twisted mind to leave everyone hanging. Perhaps prison justice might mete out appropriate punishment.

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Post by Piper on Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:02 am

I totally agree, Wisteria. He will never talk and I believe he does know.

After listening to the social worker tell the 911 operator that Josh Powell had just been to court and he didn't get his kids back, I would say she didn't think home visits were in the best interest of the boys. It's too late for those precious children now but as the POI in his wife's disappearance, that should never have been allowed to begin with. Parental rights only go so far, children are not property. The court was well aware that Josh had done everything to keep those boys to himself and the walls were closing in on him.


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Post by linden on Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:11 am

I saw many other sites where they were trash talking the lady who was meant to be supervising the visits. Saying that she must have been in the car and let the kids go well ahead of her and how she only called 911 to cover her butt. With the release of these 911 calls, I hope they all have it within them to swallow their pride and admit that she did what she could.

That first 911 operator had me more riled up than anything. Like he wasn't paying attention to anything she said or taking it seriously at all. Sad

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Piper on Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:13 am

~Snipped~ from 911 call:


Griffin-Hall: OK, it is... I still can’t find it. He’s on a very short leash with DHSH, he looked right at me and closed the door.




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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Piper on Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:19 am

Hi Linden, I saw some of those as well. She did everything she could. I was waiting for the 911 operator to ask her what she was wearing and then explain how would she know what gas really smelled like. I mean come on!

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Post by Piper on Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:30 am

And then JP's loving and supportive sister, Alina. Whining about the abuse that her brother has suffered. barf




Call from Alina Powell, who is sobbing throughout the call, sometimes becoming too garbled to understand


Alina Powell: I think my brother might be in trouble or something.


Dispatcher: what’s going on with your borther


Alina Powell: I don’t know. He’s sending weird emails and stuff.


Dispatcher: What’s his address?


Alina Powell: I don’t know his address offhand. I just know how to get there.


Dispatcher: I’ve got to know something. Is he’s in Puyallup?


Alina Powell: I don’t know, I can drive there and I can tell you.


Dispatcher: What’s his last name?


Alina Powell: Powell


Dispatcher: And his first name?


Alina Powell: Josh


Dispatcher: What makes you think there’s a problem with Josh?


Alina Powell: (crying) There’s been a lot of abuse against him and he’s really upset.


Dispatcher: What’s your name?


Alina Powell: My name is Alina, and I’m his sister.


Dispatcher: And what’s your last name?


Alina Powell: Powell.


Dispatcher: Howell with an H?


Alina Powell: No with a P. There are emails and stuff and he left me a voicemail thing that got forwarded. He said something like he can’t live without his sons and (high-pitched moan) and goodbye and (crying)


Dispatcher: What’s Josh’s number?


Alina Powell: Gives number.


Dispatcher: How long ago did you receive this message?


Alina Powell: I don’t think it came in at 11 after [doesn’t give the hour, just the minutes] I just saw it a few minutes ago.


Dispatcher: Does he live at 189th Street Court East?


Alina Powell: I think that’s our house, I don’t know.


Dispatcher: Does he live on 189th street Court East?


Alina Powell: I don’t know it’s so close.


Dispatcher asks for physical description.


Dispatcher: Was he going to have supervised visits today?


Alina Powell: I think so. He normally does.


Dispatcher: This is the Josh that has been in the media?


Alina Powell: Yes, the one who has been abused by everyone. (crying).



The boys are 5 and 7.


Dispatcher: What’s the inside phone number there?


Alina Powell: At my house?


Dispatcher: The house at 189th.


Alina Powell: I don’t know. He only has a cell phone.


Dispatcher: Did he say he’d harm himself?


Alina Powell: No, he was just saying goodbye. (crying)


Dispatcher: (Attempts to calm her down). The more you’re getting worked up the less helpful it is for me. 189th street Court East is what I’m seeing.


Alina Powell: That could be it, that sounds about right.


Dispatcher: How long has he lived there for?


Alina Powell: A few months, four or five months, like October or something. I know it’s been hard on him, the abuse has been extremely difficult.


Dispatcher: What else did the email say?


Alina Powell: He sent several emails about how to handle his property and his utilities. They started a while ago, I didn’t think anything of it. They started early this morning. They were just weird emails. There was some kind of forward or something. I just missed it.


Dispatcher: I think I have a valid address, if there’s a way to get it confirmed...


Alina Powell: I’d have to drive there.


Dispatcher: Is he home by himself ?


Alina Powell: I don’t know. He might be.


Dispatch: I’m going to start a welfare check. What does he drive?


Alina Powell: A light blue minivan, but it won’t be in the driveway. It will be in the garage.


Dispatcher: I need to know if you can get a confirmed address.


Alina Powell: The only way I can do it is to drive over there, but I’m terrified to drive over there.


Dispatcher: You don’t have to make contact. An officer will do that.


Alina Powell: I’m not afraid of him, he’d never hurt me, I’m afraid [of what I’ll find] (garbled crying)


Dispatcher: I need you to take a deep breath and calm down, I need you to calm down, it’s not helpful for you to cry and not help us with our information.

[Continues to try to calm her down] Is there any way for you to get confirmation of his address?


Alina Powell: Only driving over there.


Dispatcher: If you don’t want to drive over there, I understand . If you get a different address call us right back .


Alina Powell: OK


Dispatcher: Bye bye.


Alina Powell: Bye. (crying)


END OF CALL

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Piper on Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:39 am

And the call from JP's attorney, Jeff Bassett. He had more important things to do that day! Don't bother calling me back, I'll be busy on stage all afternoon. How ironic.......





» Call from Jeff Bassett, Josh Powell’s attorney


Bassett: This is attorney Jeff Bassett calling. I’m not sure who I need to call, but I’m Josh Powell’s attorney and I understand he had an explosion and I have some information.


Dispatcher: What kind of information?


Bassett: If it was an accident or if it was more than that.


Dispatcher: What do you have?


Bassett: I have an email from my client, and that email gives me every indication this was intentional.


Dispatcher: And your client was Josh Powell?


Bassett: I just found out about all this.


Dispatcher: Can you give me a synopsis of what it says?


Bassett: Basically it says "I’m sorry. Goodbye." I haven’t seen it myself but I just called home and was told it was in my inbox.


Dispatcher: Was there any other information in the email?


Bassett: Not to my knowledge. I just found out about the explosion and called home and told it was timed at 12:05.


Dispatcher: I appreciate your patience.


Bassett: If you want I can look for it while you’re on the phone. It will be on my cell phone.


Dispatcher: Go ahead, sir.


Bassett: Just a second. That is all it says, I just checked it. It’s 12:05. It says I’m sorry period goodbye period.


Dispatcher asks for phone number and asks if Bassett needs to be called back.


Bassett: It’s not necessary, I’m, unfortunately, I’m in the middle of a closing day performance of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest" and I’ll be on stage between 3 and 5:30.



Dispatcher: I’ll give them your information. If you receive any other emails, let us know.


END OF CALL

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Julie on Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:10 pm

Updated 42 minutes ago.

Funeral for Powell boys moved to Tacoma church

Source: AP State News
Originally published: Feb 8, 2012 - 11:30 am

TACOMA, Wash. (AP) - The funeral for the two sons of missing Utah woman Susan Powell has been moved to a larger church.

The Curnow Funeral Home in Sumner says the funeral for 7-year-old Charlie and 5-year-old Braden was moved "due to overwhelming response from the community."

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http://mynorthwest.com/174/624380/Funeral-for-Powell-boys-moved-to-Tacoma-church

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by FystyAngel on Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:20 pm

I am so sad for these two little boys. I just can not understand how a parent can kill their own children! And to think he chopped at them with an ax is horrifying.

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Wisteria on Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:02 pm

Excerpt from an article on the socia worker's call to 911:

Jupiterimages/Thinkstock(GRAHAM, Wash.) -- Moments before Josh Powell ignited a gas-fueled explosion at his home, killing himself and his two children, a locked-out child services worker pleaded with a 911 operator to get police to the home because she feared for the two boys' lives.

Elizabeth Griffin-Hall, who had brought the boys to Powell's home for a supervised visit, called 911 after she said the man let the two boys into the house but slammed the door in her face.

"Nothing like this has ever happened before -- one of these supervised visits. I'm really shocked," she said in the 911 call, one of seven released Tuesday evening. "I can hear the kids crying but he still wouldn't let me in."

She told the 911 operator she wanted to move her car out of the driveway because she smelled gas coming from the house, and then asked for police to be sent to the home. But the 911 operator said officers only get sent to life-threatening situations.

"This could be life-threatening," she said. "He went to court on Wednesday and he didn't get his kids back. I'm afraid for their lives."

Moments later, with Powell's house engulfed in flames, she called back and told a 911 operator she believed he intentionally blew up the house, killing himself and his children.


I had hoped that maybe JP managed to knock them out before they were aware of what was happening, but they were crying.

How can the sister claim Josh would never hurt her? It seems he's not afraid of hurting anyone. Her whining about poor Joshy Boy being abused. The public has a right to censure people who transgress societal mores, even if there isn't enough evidence to bring charges.

I read that WVPD were aware of the boys' statements about Mommy in the trunk and had told the family that they thought they would be able to file charges soon. I know the comment boards in Salt Lake are blasting WVPD for claiming that an arrest was forth coming in the foreseeable future after the fact, but this shows that an arrest was already anticipated. Perhaps Josh had caught wind of it, or perhaps he expected it because he knew the boys were remembering more than was convenient.

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Wisteria on Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:33 pm

Steve Powell Not Talking, Prosecutors Say No Deal Planned
(KUTV) WASHINGTON – The chief prosecutor handling the Josh Powell case says no deals are in the works or on the table with Josh's dad.

Steven Powell remains behind bars in a Washington jail on charges of voyeurism and child pornography.

Dan Rascon is in Washington and sat down with the county attorney about the Powell case.

This is a case that even top prosecutors who have dealt with all kinds of awful crimes can't believe.

With the death of Josh and his two sons, the one man left who may know something is Josh Powell’s father Steven.

But he's not talking.

Mark Lindquist is the Pierce County Chief prosecutor – the man who is overseeing the investigation into the horrific murder here at the home of Josh Powell.

Lindquist is also handling the disturbing case against Josh Powell’s father Steven.

Steven's is behind bars here at the Pierce County Jail on charges of voyeurism and child pornography.

Steven is the one man Utah investigators want to talk to.

But sheriff’s deputies say he's on suicide watch and saying nothing.

Lindquist says he wants to make one thing very clear about Steven Powell.

"No deal has been proposed to us by Steven Powell or his attorney. Absolutely no deals have been offered by us. If Steven Powell wants to start talking we’ll listen,” he said.

Steve Powell’s arrest last year is the reason Josh Powell lost custody of his children.

Josh is the only person of interest in his wife Susan Cox Powell’s disappearance back in December 2009 in West Valley City, Utah.

(Copyright 2012 Sinclair Broadcasting Group)

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Post by Wisteria on Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:05 pm

KSL television just reported that police say Josh took out a $1,000,000 life insurance policy on Susan. They informed the Coxes that they anticipated filing charges last September, but nothing ever came of it.

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Post by Piper on Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:25 pm

Sheriff unhappy with 911 dispatcher in Josh Powell case

In 911 call, worker fears for Powell's sons

POSTED: Wednesday, Feb. 08, 2012


By MIKE BAKER and GENE JOHNSON - Associated Press

SEATTLE - A 911 recording reveals a social worker's urgent attempts over more than six minutes to get a dispatcher to send deputies after Josh Powell locked himself and his two sons in his home.

The social worker tried repeatedly to relay the gravity of what was going on. Josh Powell was scheduled for a supervised visit with his sons Sunday, but he slammed the door in her face - then used a hatchet on his sons and torched the building in a gas-fueled inferno. All three were killed.

In the first minutes of the 911 call, the woman laid out the situation.




Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/02/08/2385084/in-911-call-worker-fears-for-josh.html#storylink=cpy

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Post by Piper on Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:28 pm

Warrant shows Josh Powell took $7,000 out of bank

POSTED: Wednesday, Feb. 08, 2012



Editor’s note: An item below contains a description of an explicit image.

A search warrant affidavit filed in Pierce County Superior Court on Tuesday showed Josh Powell withdrew $7,000 from a South Hill bank branch Saturday.


A teller at the Bank of America branch at 176th Street and Meridian contacted Pierce County sheriff’s detectives Sunday to notify them of the withdrawal, the affidavit states.

The teller did not ask Powell why he was making the withdrawal.


Detectives seized transaction records and photographs of Powell taken by bank security cameras, the affidavit states.


Powell killed his young sons, Charlie, 7, and Braden, 5, about 24 hours later.

Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/02/08/2385035/warrant-shows-josh-powell-took.html#storylink=cpy



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Post by Piper on Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:59 pm

I had wondered when the $7,000 withdrawal had been reported. Apparently, after the murders and explosion. That's a huge red flag to withdraw that kind of cash at one time for a POI in a missing persons case when the walls are caving in on him.

Was he going to flee with the boys and changed his mind, did he leave the cash in a secret location for his sister and brother that support him to help their perv father. Maybe they all had a plan to leave the country if that million dollar policy on Susan ever panned out for them. I'd go as far to bet that cash didn't go up in his inferno, I'm sure money meant more to him than his wife and innocent children.

Wisteria, thanks for the info on that life insurance policy. I had never heard that. It sheds another light on this evilness.


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Post by Piper on Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:02 pm

The last paragraph of the article I posted above:

~Snipped~

EXPLICIT DRAWING



An attorney representing Susan Powell’s parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, has described the explicit image referred to in Josh Powell’s last custody hearing.


The drawing depicted a sword inserted through a woman’s vagina and coming out the woman’s throat.


Powell learned at the Feb. 1 custody hearing that he would not get his boys back until at least July and that he had to submit to a psychosexual evaluation and polygraph test. The judge’s ruling came after West Valley City police found sexually explicit images on a computer in Powell’s Utah home during a 2009 search.



Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/02/08/2385035/warrant-shows-josh-powell-took.html#storylink=cpy

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Post by Piper on Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:13 pm

What is a psychosexual evaluation?

Updated: 2/07 6:16 pm | Published: 2/07 5:09 pm




SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) – Last Wednesday Josh Powell was ordered to undergo a psychosexual evaluation during a custody hearing in Washington. Experts say it’s an invasive test reserved for extreme cases.

Jeff Bassett, Josh Powell’s attorney strongly refuted the latest evidence presented against him February 1, 2012. "He denies ever looking at any kiddie porn, he denies any knowledge of any of these images that have purportedly been take off of his computer."

Those images were unlocked by West Valley Police, and when presented, were enough for a doctor to order a psychosexual evaluation. Salt Lake City legal expert Greg Skordas says it's an unusual order in a custody battle. "It means that judge was concerned about something that he had done, something that he had said, or something they found at his house that led them to think he was a sexual predator."

Donald Strassberg, PhD, is a University of Utah Professor of Clinical Psychology. He says the psychosexual evaluation includes personality tests, and very specific questioning. “You are looking at their sexual histories, asking them basically about their sexual behavior growing up and their family as adolescents, and as adults."

He says psychosexual evaluations are typically restricted to those known to have committed a crime. “It’s pretty much restricted to the evaluation of men who are known, or suspected, to have committed some kind of sexual violence, child molestation, rape or some kind of sexual offense.”

The evaluation includes physical testing. “The unique aspect of the psychosexual evaluation involves trying to find what kind of stimuli, what kind of circumstances are they most sexually interested in- so while the person is being exposed to the sexual stimuli, their arousal level is being accessed."


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http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/What-is-a-psychosexual-evaluation/QTZ0Fy86mUeeR4Am7y9ipg.cspx

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Post by Piper on Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:23 pm

~Snipped~

The PPG test ordered for Josh Powell is also accompanied by a lie detector test. Josh had refused to take polygraph tests in the past. Dr. Strassberg says it’s another tool used l to get information from someone who may not want to be forthcoming. "That too is unusual in custody cases, but it's yet one other way to try to get at the truth."

Dr. Strassberg says neither of the tests is infallible but do help create a portrait of the person being evaluated. “The psychosexual evaluation is designed to try to understand someone's sexual personality what they are like as a sexual being."



Josh Powell was in line for an up close and very personal look into the depths of his darkness.

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Post by Wisteria on Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:26 pm

EXPLICIT DRAWING

An attorney representing Susan Powell’s parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, has described the explicit image referred to in Josh Powell’s last custody hearing.

The drawing depicted a sword inserted through a woman’s vagina and coming out the woman’s throat.

Powell learned at the Feb. 1 custody hearing that he would not get his boys back until at least July and that he had to submit to a psychosexual evaluation and polygraph test. The judge’s ruling came after West Valley City police found sexually explicit images on a computer in Powell’s Utah home during a 2009 search.

Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/02/08/2385035/warrant-shows-josh-powell-took.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy

I have yet to find any links regarding the million dollar insurance policy. KSL is covering the 10nth anniversary of the opening ceremonies of the the 2002 Olympic Games and think someone is asleep on the job, metaphorically speaking. I'm a little surprised not to have found the story picked up on other sources yet. Apparently JP took out the policy nearly a year before his wife disappeared. It begs the question of how he thought he'd collect if he insisted that his wife had run off with another man, but then logic and rational thought seem to have little in common with JP.

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Post by Julie on Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:07 pm

Wisteria-I only found 2 links that mention the life insurance policy.

"But Steve Downing, who represents the Coxes, revealed that Josh Powell bought a $1 million life insurance policy on his wife a year before she disappeared. Downing said Josh Powell also was telling friends about how to dispose of a body without being caught."
http://m.sltrib.com/sltrib/mobile/53470987-78/powell-josh-nielsen-case.html.csp

"I think the Cox family is concerned about the million dollar life insurance policy that Josh allegedly took out on his wife a year before she disappeared," Downing said.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=19162751

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