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Post by Snaz on Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:25 am

The Google Searches

Posted on February 8th, 2010 by Valhall

The infamous Google searches that were conducted on the Anthony desktop, and which may or may not come into play in the trial, were conducted in March 2008 – three months before Caylee’s murder. They consisted of searches of the terms: chloroform, chloraform, alcohol, acentone, peroxide, one tree hill, one tree hill 100th episode, how to make chloroform, how to make chloraform, self defense, household weapons, neck breaking and shovel. In addition there is a visit, resulting from one of these searches, to a chapter entitled Personal and Household Articles as Weapons from a book entitled Self-Defense for Women.

In looking at whether the Google searches could have been made by anyone other than Casey we first have to establish whether they were done on her user account of the desktop or on the family user account. The computer forensics files released in discovery do not answer this question because these particular searches were found in unallocated space of the HP desktop. Unallocated file space can be defined as a dumping ground for any data that is erased or deleted – even if that deletion occurs in a format of the hard drive. Many people have the misconception they can simply format their hard drives and permanently removed all the data. This is not true from a forensic standpoint and should be kept in mind when donating a computer for charity. If you really want to protect yourself, you should spend a few dollars to get a cheap hard drive and replace the drive before donating the computer.


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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by Snaz on Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:31 pm

The “Zenaida” Searches

Posted on February 9th, 2010 by Valhall

I’ve been asked a few times about the “zenaida” searches on the Anthony desktop, and suffered through some misunderstandings concerning this myself, so I thought I’d bring this to an article, do some explaining, and then solicit assistance from some of our more computer savvy readers concerning some questions that remain about these particular points in the computer forensics released to date.

In particular we are looking at the following searches containing the name “zenaida”:

search term: zenaida

Name: history.dat
Description: File, Archive
File Created: 10/22/07 01:13:21PM
Last Accessed: 07/16/08 12:03:24PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 12:03:24PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\mfhaxjkl.default\history.dat

http://friends.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewfriends\ =203461948897ec12-9984-4944-b65e-
6dcef3d5a590=zenaida

Name: index.dat
Description: File, Archive
File Created: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Accessed: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 04:20:12PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\index.dat

http://clk.atdmt.com/RUC/go/whtpgreu0210000164ruc/direct;at.rucreu00001670;ct.1/01?dispatch=show SearchRegistration&action=peopleSearch_wp_resultcount&city=&mname=&peopleSearchFrom=wp&affiliate id=131&searchFirstName=zenaida&searchLastName=Gonzalez&searchAge=25

Name: index.dat
Description: File, Archive
File Created: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Accessed: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 04:20:12PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\index.dat

http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?&searchLName=Fernandez&searchState=FL&searchCity=jacksonville&searchFName=Zenaida&adID=303014F936&adsource=8&TID=0&cid=people&searchtab=people •ð-•newsearch[2]


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The Google Searches

Post by Snaz on Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:17 am

(Note the new writer at Valhall's)

The Google Searches and Cindy’s Judas Moment

Posted on March 5th, 2010 by JWG

Valhall recently posted an article discussing the Google searches, after which I pointed out a few minor errors in her interpretation of the searches. In her consistently down-home way, she asked me if I would be willing to post my own observations. I told her I would when I finally had the chance, which I seem to have now.

First, I want to say I am humbled by Val’s invitation to have me post. This is her blog, and within mere months she has established a solid reputation on the net as a thorough researcher, careful thinker, and fair moderator. While she and I communicate frequently and have always respected each other’s work, I was nonetheless surprised by her invite. My hope is not to diminish in any way the solid reputation she has already built with this site.

Back a few months ago I went through the Google search spreadsheet line-by-line in an attempt to better understand what it was revealing. The spreadsheet is one that was released on April 6, 2009 as part of discovery, but was not made available by the media. I obtained my copy from Muzikman over at Websleuths (insert rocker emoticon here).

There are some important things to understand about the content of this spreadsheet. Recall an early investigative report by Det. Yuri Melich in which he says he asked computer CSI Sandra Cawn to search for the keyword “chloroform” on the Anthony computer. She did so and found references to the word in unallocated space – meaning the references had been purposely deleted. According to the report, there were searches for the word at Google, as well as similar searches for the ingredients and recipe for chloroform. Also, all of these searches were done from the Firefox browser.


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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by Piper on Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:37 am

I think JWG did an excellent job at explaining the searches. I got a kick out of the urban dictionary search..."bustdown" Shocked

And Cindy's explanation for looking up alcohol and peroxide, she's a nurse.

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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by Snaz on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:18 am

After reading JWG's article, it only reaffirms my belief that the State has SOOOOO much on KC Anthony! Stuff I didn't even realize because I, like so many others, don't have the knowledge to understand what I was seeing in some of the discovery. When the State presents their case..... and points out all these little details, it will be VERY clear to the jury to killed Caylee.

And that's just a portion of the computer forensics. We still have the entomology experts to lay it all out for the jury.... and so much more!!!!! And, of course, there's still that information of which the State has been allowed to delay the release..... no telling what THAT might be...

No, I don't believe there will be any problem at all in the State getting a conviction for murder one in this case. 8)

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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by Piper on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:42 am

I agree. Once it is presented, piece by piece, there will be no doubt. And also, just think of how much they know about the rest of the Anthony's and the lies, coverups. I am dying to know what's in the delayed release. Guess we just have to wait........

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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by LottieM on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:47 am

Interesting read over there at the Hinky, Snaz. Gotta tell ya, all the computer dissection give me a brain hemorrhage! But that new blogger made it seem sensible.

I have issues with the searches in general though. I don't think they amount to a hill of beans except for Cindy lying about doing the ones for chloroform. And I think she only lied about them because LE was making a big deal out of them and Cindy will cover anything no matter if it's important or not. She just wants everyone to be wrong about anything and everything except her own stories. She proved that to me when she didn't want anyone to look for Caylee any way but alive. She had no idea if Caylee was dead, so she shouldn't have wanted that option left unexplored just in case she was wrong about Caylee being alive.

My summary of all the computer searches is, Casey was into escorting part time or thinking about it, she looked up self defense and household weapons for her own potential safety, someone found out she was into it and looked for her on escort sites because she denied it. The spy/ex detective was George's thing so I'd say he was doing that escort searching looking for his daughter to see what she might be into. As for the chloroform, Ricardo M had that pic up about Win her over with Chloroform and I think Casey got interested in it as a way of incapacitating people, but not necessarily Caylee. She may have thought it would useful in her escorting to get some rich guy to try it for a thrill, give him a bit more than he needed to get him knocked out so she could then steal from his wallet or something. But what's absent from her searches for chloroform is a search for how much is safe to give. So I don't think she actually ever did make or use chloroform on anyone, including Caylee unless she knew someone who was already using it and asked them. She did talk on IM or text about chloroform not killing people, but I think that was just hot-shot talk and nothing more.

What's confusing that summary though, is that Gatorade bottle being found near Caylee's remains. If it were not part of Caylee's death, then how did it conveniently end up there with traces of chloroform in it? But more confusing is why Casey would dump it there if she used chloroform to kill or subdue Caylee? We know Casey was intent on blaming Caylee's death on the nanny, so was the nanny supposed to also be into using chloroform? Well, maybe that's why Cindy tried to implicate Ricardo in Casey's death.

You all will see my pattern of believing at least Cindy helped Casey stage the nanny kidnap story long before July 15th. LOL I look for ways to disprove that theory, but I haven't found any yet. For example, Casey stayed at Ricardo's place while they were in Puerto Rico. If Ricardo had been into using chloroform for kinky sex, Casey might have taken the Gatorade bottle from his place and tossed it into the woods with Caylee to confuse, and at the same time deleted the chloroform searches from her own computer.

There are pieces of logic missing in my idea, but there are pieces of logic missing in all the Anthony's do, so it kind of fits. Guess I need to think some more. shifty

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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by Snaz on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:32 pm

I do not belive KC made the escort searches..... as JWG pointed out, they were done on Internet Explorer and KC used Mozilla Firefox. That part makes sense to me... based on the explanation of the searches done on each site. I'm not one who buys into the theory that KC was into escorting. I believe GA did those searches MUCH quicker than I believe KC did them. (I mean, think about it.... if you were married to the wicked witch of the south, would YOU want to have sex with her???? Ha!) Seriously, I believe that if KC were into escorting, she wouldn't have had to steal from everyone... she would have had her own money.... And other than the escorting searches, there is nothing that leads me to believe KC was into that.... JMO

I believe chloroform played a part in the death of Caylee, I'm just not sure how... and I'm not convinced yet that the Gatorade bottle is related. After all, the chloroform was just a trace... and there was testosterone found in the syringe, as well. I thought it was a real NG-style "BOMBSHELL" when the information was first released in discovery, but have since come to believe it MAY not be related.

Lottie wrote:

You all will see my pattern of believing at least Cindy helped Casey stage the nanny kidnap story long before July 15th.


Lottie, are you saying that you believe Cindy knew for a fact that Caylee was dead BEFORE she was reported missing on July 15... and that she conspired with KC before that date to come up with the "imaginanny took her" story?

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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by Snaz on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:21 pm

Here's an interesting little tidbit I found at HM:

» JWG said: { Mar 5, 2010 - 08:03:30 }

WSH – interestingly, the time stamp on Ricardo’s Myspace page shows he uploaded the “Win Her Over with Chloroform” image the day after Casey’s Google searches. See the screen capture of his page here:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/misconline/orv7mq.jpg

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=1826

So, it appears KC googled chloroform BEFORE Ricardo uploaded the little chloroform ditty on his myspace....

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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by Snaz on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:37 pm

Another interesting tidbit from HM:

» JWG said: { Mar 5, 2010 - 08:03:09 }

Janielane – I think it is safe to assume George is responsible for the escort searches. In reviewing the internet history, the searches more often than not coincide with visits to job-hunting sites in the security field, visits to car sites and home improvement sites. The pattern is something like this: Do a little job hunting, read some car reviews, check out a few escort sites.

As I said, creatures of habit.

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Sure makes good sense to me.... because I am pretty darn sure KC wouldn't have been searching for any kind of a job..... IMO it sounds EXACTLY like it was GA doing the escort searches. How embarrassed is HE going to be if this is brought up at trial as part of the proof that KC did the chloroform, etc. searches!!!!

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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by Julie on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:41 pm

Snaz wrote:Here's an interesting little tidbit I found at HM:

» JWG said: { Mar 5, 2010 - 08:03:30 }

WSH – interestingly, the time stamp on Ricardo’s Myspace page shows he uploaded the “Win Her Over with Chloroform” image the day after Casey’s Google searches. See the screen capture of his page here:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/misconline/orv7mq.jpg

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=1826

So, it appears KC googled chloroform BEFORE Ricardo uploaded the little chloroform ditty on his myspace....


Well, well, this is quite interesting, isn't it?

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Post by Julie on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:43 pm

Snaz wrote:Another interesting tidbit from HM:

» JWG said: { Mar 5, 2010 - 08:03:09 }

Janielane – I think it is safe to assume George is responsible for the escort searches. In reviewing the internet history, the searches more often than not coincide with visits to job-hunting sites in the security field, visits to car sites and home improvement sites. The pattern is something like this: Do a little job hunting, read some car reviews, check out a few escort sites.

As I said, creatures of habit.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=1826

Sure makes good sense to me.... because I am pretty darn sure KC wouldn't have been searching for any kind of a job..... IMO it sounds EXACTLY like it was GA doing the escort searches. How embarrassed is HE going to be if this is brought up at trial as part of the proof that KC did the chloroform, etc. searches!!!!


This escort search story has been out for quite some time too, I wonder if Cindy ever questioned George about it?

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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by Piper on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:44 pm

I always thought she had seen the "Win her over" on Ricardo's myspace first, as well. No

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Post by Snaz on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:44 pm

Snipped:

Julie wrote:

This escort search story has been out for quite some time too, I wonder if Cindy ever questioned George about it?


Asked him about it? She probably gave him HELL about it!!! roflao

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Post by LottieM on Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:01 pm

Snaz wrote:

Lottie, are you saying that you believe Cindy knew for a fact that Caylee was dead BEFORE she was reported missing on July 15... and that she conspired with KC before that date to come up with the "imaginanny took her" story?



In one word, Yes! In more words, that is what I can't get out of my head because this case is full of holes and somewhere thre has to be some putty. I think Cindy is that putty.

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Post by LottieM on Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:08 pm

Julie wrote:

This escort search story has been out for quite some time too, I wonder if Cindy ever questioned George about it?


I'd say she did, and that's possibly where Casey got her idea to claim (by her usual twisted lies) George was cheating on Cindy via the internet. However, Cindy didn't seem to care if she did know George was on those sites, so it would seem like he may have had an excuse Cindy bought into, such as that he was looking for Casey on one of them to see if she was doing what he suspected, that being escorting. All this is conjecture from my head, of course, but if you think about it George searched a ton of escort sites like he was searching for something in particular and I say it was his daughter.

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Post by Julie on Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:37 pm

Snaz wrote:Snipped:

Julie wrote:

This escort search story has been out for quite some time too, I wonder if Cindy ever questioned George about it?


Asked him about it? She probably gave him HELL about it!!!


LOL, to be a fly on the wall..........

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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by Julie on Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:40 pm

LottieM wrote:
Julie wrote:

This escort search story has been out for quite some time too, I wonder if Cindy ever questioned George about it?


I'd say she did, and that's possibly where Casey got her idea to claim (by her usual twisted lies) George was cheating on Cindy via the internet. However, Cindy didn't seem to care if she did know George was on those sites, so it would seem like he may have had an excuse Cindy bought into, such as that he was looking for Casey on one of them to see if she was doing what he suspected, that being escorting. All this is conjecture from my head, of course, but if you think about it George searched a ton of escort sites like he was searching for something in particular and I say it was his daughter.


My own opinion, I'd say he was looking more for pleasure, but who knows? It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.

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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by Justice4all on Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:29 pm

awaiting justice wrote:It will be very interesting watching this trial !

I agree and it will answer a lot of the questions that everybody has. That's why it's so frustrating that it's over a year away.


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Re: The Computer Searches

Post by randilynn on Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:02 pm

Piper wrote:I think JWG did an excellent job at explaining the searches. I got a kick out of the urban dictionary search..."bustdown" Shocked

And Cindy's explanation for looking up alcohol and peroxide, she's a nurse.


if a NURSE needs to look up info on alcohol and peroxide, we are all in SERIOUS trouble in the medical profession!!


i too, was under the impression that KC got the chloroform "idea" from seeing it on ricardo's computer, not sure where that came from though....

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