I'm convinced, Ron knew...

Personally, I think there are some untidy bits in all of the stories out there that just don't jive.

I personally suspect that Tommy would sell his soul to the devil (if he hasn't already) just to get outta jail and a long prison sentence. His statements have been confusing and conflicting to say the least and he has zero reliability factor at this point to me. It does disturb me that he places himself at various scenes of the crime, then changes his story, then places himself in the thick of things again..... depending on what he thinks he might get out of it. Changing his plea to nolo contentre may turn out to be the biggest mistake he has made legal-wise. We all saw what happened to Hope when her big mouth ticked off the judge who in turn decided to teach her a lesson. A 15-year lesson! If anyone knows more than they are saying, I suspect it is Tommy.

As for cousin Joe~ I still lean towards a big ol red herring, especially when we saw how quickly the Croslins were able to regroup and simultaneously point the finger at him months and months after the fact and when, coincidentally, members of their own family were sinking fast.

I don't think Misty holds the key to anything. I think she is an excellent candidate for rehab and hope that she gets the help she needs to gain insight into her self destructive behaviors, which are many (not just substance abuse) and which she clearly does not possess at the present time. She also needs to extricate herself from all of the toxic relationships in her life and surround herself with people (professional as well as lay) who can support her through the difficult task of self inventory and life changing programs that would out of necessity place her far, far away from her family and friends who care not what deep, dark hole she falls into. She's very young, and intellectually/mentally/emotionally (morally) even younger than her chronological age. She is the kind of young girl who is easily manipulated, threatened, bullied and abused. She considers this a normal way of life because that is all she has ever known.

Ronald remains an inigma. There are a lot of reasons I don't like or trust him, and feel anger towards him - but that's not a reason to put him in prison. He was not charged with moral malnutrition, he was clearly and rightly indicted on drug trafficking charges. Or was it all a set up? Maybe. Was he an idiot for putting himself in that position when he surely knew that LE had not taken their eyes off him since the unsolved disappearance/murder of his daughter? Certainly. There is a fine line between a 'sting' and entrapment. If it was LE's intent to 'scare them straight' then that plan failed miserably. They may have drug cases against all these players, but no one has come clean on the Haleigh situation which, I think, was their main purpose in incarcerating all of them in the first place. One thing for sure, Ron is the only player here who has taken his attorney's advice and kept his mouth shut.

The other players: Sisters, brothers, mothers, fathers, grandmothers, cousins, wives/husbands and ex-wives/husbands, wanna-be imbedded private investigators and news journalists looking to be the first one to crack the case by what ever means possible, bounty hunters, attorneys (cough, Kim Picazzo, cough), bloggers waging war with internet campaigns (often at the behest of some relative or another of the accused) to sully or lift up the reputations of those involved, etc, while all dispicable, need to just go away.

I will always have hope that this case will be solved. But that hope is dwindling.

What a sad, sad case. kh

bravo kh....I have never heard of "moral malnutrition", but when you used it, no definition was required. You are so right on with your observations of the players in this case. I won't place any trust in LE solving this now.
Poor little Haleigh has been goon too long.

awaiting justice wrote:I like the description too, however it seems more fitting to be applied to LE and the wannabbees who injected themselves into this case...

I expected better from ppl like AH and NG who continually aired so much inaccurate embellished information which clearly influenced many of the general population.

They are educated, and clearly lack in the moral department... How can they feel good about their "journalism" where they used false information and manipulated alleged events and interviews where they set out to make ignornant ppl, look suspicious...and all for money... Ppl like them are nothing short of morally bankrupt! I expect more from them, and judging on the lifestyles and upbringings of all the players, their shortcomings are predictable, if you will.. We need to remember that ignornant ppl living that type of life, does not make them murderers/accomplices in kidnappings....

Agreed. kh

You know, I just don't understand when children became disposable items.

My mom-in-law is 95+ years old. She saves everything. If there is one spoon of greenbeans left, she wraps it up in foil and saves it for the next day. She has clothes that are 40+ years old (she takes very good care of her stuff), shoes too. She lived through the great depression. She has never wasted anything in her life since then.

We live in a throw-away world now. Plates, utensils, clothing, diapers, shoes, soda bottles, nylons, food (wives/husbands/children) that she simply does cannot comprehend.

As much as it galls her to throw away something left-over (even one slice of garlic toast), the idea that there are moms/dads, husbands/wives out there now who could simply "throw away" a relationship or a kid is even more obscene to her. As it should be.

Yet, she sees it as the 'way things are now.' Can you imagine that? She sees that the world now throws away kids with less thought than we throw away the left over pasta from our dinner table last night. The thought is so repugnant to her that she has trouble even talking about it.

So my question is this: How can we live in a throw-away world where even our kids are candidates for the dumpster? Susan Smith, Casey Anthony, Ronald Cummings, Caro Socorro, Dora Luz Durenrostro, John Evander Couey, Jeffrey MacDonald, Melissa Huckaby, Scott Peterson, Cesar Lauren, Rachel Summers, Marilyn Lemak, PLUS all the mom's who seem to be completely incapacitated by peen syndrome, whereby they let anybody with a penis move into their home to look after their children, nevermind the numerous previous sex offense convictions they have on their record or the restrictions about "being near children and/or schools" that the State has imposed on them! They won't hear of it! They want a boyfriend with benefits and they want it now!

It breaks my heart that something so abhorrent could now be considered a normal news headline right up there with "Lost Dog" or "Have You Seen This Cat?"

I am truely sickened by this turn of events. How about you?

kh

Me too, kh. Sickened, and frightened for my children and grandchildren, because they have to survive in a world filled with more evil that seems to grow worse with time. How can one protect their loved ones, when they are out of your sight, not within arms reach, and beyond your warning shout.

Great post, kh!

Hi all.

Been a member for a few weeks, but this is my first post. am looking forward to meeting new friends. seems like a real quite clean forum with alot of good feedback.

o.k, so heres my question.

i just read that there was a bone found on the day of the river search and that it had turned out to be a native americans, anyhow im wondering if this is why pcsd called in family and told them haleigh was dead? if so imo very stupid and eggy of pcsd.

im beginning to wonder imho if pcsd didnt obduct haleigh themselves? LOL LOL.

i mean come on, the sloppy shiddy police investagation has been just that.

can you imagine how haleigh's families must of had to ender such pain for a froggy jump?

i have properly said to much already.

nice to meet you all.
have a good day you all.

it's suppose to say probaly have said to much already.

goofy me.LOL.

Welcome frankie. The bone may have been the reason LE told Haleigh's family that she was dead, but I'm not positive. The search ended up being a dead end, so I don't know how they could say for certain that Haleigh was dead.

The whole river search seems to have originated based on stories told by people who were telling LE what they wanted to hear in hopes of being let off the drug charges. I don't think they have any more evidence that Haleigh is dead than they did a year ago. Maybe they have a good reason for telling the family that Haleigh was dead without having solid proof, but I sure can't think of any.