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thanks snaz.. i really wasnt sure..
i noticed 2 things at the hearing.. one being the absence of the ants .. the other i am sure i am going to catch hell for, but here it goes... why is BC in a wheelchair?? i watched him figit, and move, and almost stand up out of the wheelchair to reposition himself.. i was under the impression that he was paralized. i wouldnt put it past a lawyer to use it for a sympathy "not guilty" or civil verdict.. i know.. i know.. im terrible.
i noticed 2 things at the hearing.. one being the absence of the ants .. the other i am sure i am going to catch hell for, but here it goes... why is BC in a wheelchair?? i watched him figit, and move, and almost stand up out of the wheelchair to reposition himself.. i was under the impression that he was paralized. i wouldnt put it past a lawyer to use it for a sympathy "not guilty" or civil verdict.. i know.. i know.. im terrible.

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Brad was born September 10, 1965 in Washington D.C. He is the oldest of three children. Brad and his family moved to Brevard County in 1977 and lived on South Merritt Island. In 1981, Brad was paralyzed in a surfing accident just north of Sebastian Inlet. After nine months in a physical rehabilitation hospital located in Orlando, Brad returned to high school and graduated in December 1983 from Melbourne High.
http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/dedicated-link-thread-links-only-please-f7/brad-conway-anthonys-new-attorney-t842.htm
So I guess he truly is paralyzed.....
Brad was born September 10, 1965 in Washington D.C. He is the oldest of three children. Brad and his family moved to Brevard County in 1977 and lived on South Merritt Island. In 1981, Brad was paralyzed in a surfing accident just north of Sebastian Inlet. After nine months in a physical rehabilitation hospital located in Orlando, Brad returned to high school and graduated in December 1983 from Melbourne High.
http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/dedicated-link-thread-links-only-please-f7/brad-conway-anthonys-new-attorney-t842.htm
So I guess he truly is paralyzed.....
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Randi, the guy in the wheelchair, in court today was not Brad Conway. I don't know who he was, but I think he must have been a reporter, as he was taking lots of notes, and I don't usually see BC taking notes.

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What kind of day was it for Casey Anthony’s defense team?
posted by halboedeker on May, 6 2010 5:45 PM
What kind of day was it for Casey Anthony’s defense?
WFTV-Channel 9 listed setbacks today in a hearing on expenses for the indigent defendant:
***Her attorneys asked that she not have to attend hearings. “Casey Anthony doesn’t like people criticizing her appearance or actions, so she asked to stay in jail during future hearings,” WFTV’s Kathi Belich said. But Chief Judge Belvin Perry said she would have to attend most of them, saying he didn’t want to give her grounds for an appeal.
***The defense wanted to keep its experts’ names secret, but Perry “made defense attorney Jose Baez name names,” Belich said.
***The defense wanted to buy two cars — with taxpayer money for $6,000 — to conduct air tests; Perry denied the request.
Why that request? ”While it may sound like a silly idea, it gives you a sense of how closely the defense wants to challenge the so-called sniff test showing the odor in the car of Casey’s was from decomposition,” WESH-Channel 2’s Bob Kealing said.
Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.
Perry denied the defense team’s request to seal records about how her attorneys will spend taxpayer money. Perry said a blanket sealing of the information wouldn’t be appropriate.
“This is not a total blow to Casey Anthony’s defense team,” WESH’s Jeff Lennox said. “The judge says if they’re worried about any information that may be released in the near future, they can go ahead and deal with it on a case-by-case basis with the court.”
And the day was hardly a wash for the defense.
WOFL-Channel 35’s Holly Bristow highlighted that Perry allowed the defense to keep some out-of-state experts, such as Dr. Henry Lee. “In the end the judge approved 16 of the 19 requests the defense made, but he flat out denied spending state funds for a jury expert,” Bristow reported.
What of the overall expenses?
“We didn’t find out an exact number for how much money Casey’s defense will cost taxpayers, but we do expect to get a better idea in an order from Judge Perry,” WESH’s Kealing said.
What kind of day was it?
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer offered this analysis: “The judge is not going to send the defense to court in a Rolls-Royce. He’ll send them to court in a compact.”
Sheaffer’s said Perry’s rulings “are ensuring the integrity of the system, they’re ensuring that the taxpayers’ money is spent wisely.”
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-what-kind-of-day-was-it-for-casey-anthonys-defense-team.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29
posted by halboedeker on May, 6 2010 5:45 PM
What kind of day was it for Casey Anthony’s defense?
WFTV-Channel 9 listed setbacks today in a hearing on expenses for the indigent defendant:
***Her attorneys asked that she not have to attend hearings. “Casey Anthony doesn’t like people criticizing her appearance or actions, so she asked to stay in jail during future hearings,” WFTV’s Kathi Belich said. But Chief Judge Belvin Perry said she would have to attend most of them, saying he didn’t want to give her grounds for an appeal.
***The defense wanted to keep its experts’ names secret, but Perry “made defense attorney Jose Baez name names,” Belich said.
***The defense wanted to buy two cars — with taxpayer money for $6,000 — to conduct air tests; Perry denied the request.
Why that request? ”While it may sound like a silly idea, it gives you a sense of how closely the defense wants to challenge the so-called sniff test showing the odor in the car of Casey’s was from decomposition,” WESH-Channel 2’s Bob Kealing said.
Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.
Perry denied the defense team’s request to seal records about how her attorneys will spend taxpayer money. Perry said a blanket sealing of the information wouldn’t be appropriate.
“This is not a total blow to Casey Anthony’s defense team,” WESH’s Jeff Lennox said. “The judge says if they’re worried about any information that may be released in the near future, they can go ahead and deal with it on a case-by-case basis with the court.”
And the day was hardly a wash for the defense.
WOFL-Channel 35’s Holly Bristow highlighted that Perry allowed the defense to keep some out-of-state experts, such as Dr. Henry Lee. “In the end the judge approved 16 of the 19 requests the defense made, but he flat out denied spending state funds for a jury expert,” Bristow reported.
What of the overall expenses?
“We didn’t find out an exact number for how much money Casey’s defense will cost taxpayers, but we do expect to get a better idea in an order from Judge Perry,” WESH’s Kealing said.
What kind of day was it?
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer offered this analysis: “The judge is not going to send the defense to court in a Rolls-Royce. He’ll send them to court in a compact.”
Sheaffer’s said Perry’s rulings “are ensuring the integrity of the system, they’re ensuring that the taxpayers’ money is spent wisely.”
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-what-kind-of-day-was-it-for-casey-anthonys-defense-team.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29
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I think the defense hired all of those unknown people to be stand-ins. 
(Expert, out-of-towners, of course.)

(Expert, out-of-towners, of course.)
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I had taped the hearing and finally got around to watching it last night.
I like this judge! He doesn't seem to get as confused and Strickland seemed to when Baez and company obfuscated things. So he cuts right to the meat of things.
From the expert population the defense wants to use, it seems they are going to try to prove 1) there was no dead body in the trunk of the Pontiac, 2) the remains weren't put in the woods while Casey could have done it.
But...but...but...if Casey didn't do it, then who did? They surely can't be planning on suggesting a mysterious nanny actually DID have Caylee and eventually killed her!
I like this judge! He doesn't seem to get as confused and Strickland seemed to when Baez and company obfuscated things. So he cuts right to the meat of things.
From the expert population the defense wants to use, it seems they are going to try to prove 1) there was no dead body in the trunk of the Pontiac, 2) the remains weren't put in the woods while Casey could have done it.
But...but...but...if Casey didn't do it, then who did? They surely can't be planning on suggesting a mysterious nanny actually DID have Caylee and eventually killed her!
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GRACE: Back to Dr. Henry Lee, who, as you all know, is a famed forensic scientist on the Anthony defense team. Dr. Lee, I`ve just got to ask you, you know, tot mom Casey Anthony was siphoning gasoline from her family`s car to fill up her own tank. How the heck are you getting paid? I`m sure you`re costing a pretty penny. Dr. Lee does not come cheap.
LEE: No, we did not get any pay for that and for -- I`ll say, you know, this country, as you know, everybody entitled a defense. And many forensic experts, we do pro bono cases and that`s our obligation to our profession. As an expert, we look at evidence, doesn`t matter inculpatory, exculpatory, we report (ph) as it is. I don`t think should be labeled as a defense expert going to just for defense. Many time, found more evidence, inculpatory evidence, than the police found. There -- you know, case history, case example, many time we`re allowed to work on the case together. Many of my cases, I let the defense expert observe. It`s nothing wrong.
GRACE: So Dr. Lee...
LEE: Nothing unusual.
GRACE: Dr. Lee, are you telling me that you are working on the case pro bono, for free?
LEE: Yes.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/15/ng.01.html
GRACE: Back to Dr. Henry Lee, who, as you all know, is a famed forensic scientist on the Anthony defense team. Dr. Lee, I`ve just got to ask you, you know, tot mom Casey Anthony was siphoning gasoline from her family`s car to fill up her own tank. How the heck are you getting paid? I`m sure you`re costing a pretty penny. Dr. Lee does not come cheap.
LEE: No, we did not get any pay for that and for -- I`ll say, you know, this country, as you know, everybody entitled a defense. And many forensic experts, we do pro bono cases and that`s our obligation to our profession. As an expert, we look at evidence, doesn`t matter inculpatory, exculpatory, we report (ph) as it is. I don`t think should be labeled as a defense expert going to just for defense. Many time, found more evidence, inculpatory evidence, than the police found. There -- you know, case history, case example, many time we`re allowed to work on the case together. Many of my cases, I let the defense expert observe. It`s nothing wrong.
GRACE: So Dr. Lee...
LEE: Nothing unusual.
GRACE: Dr. Lee, are you telling me that you are working on the case pro bono, for free?
LEE: Yes.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/15/ng.01.html
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well well well... looks like bozo pulled one over on the new tough judge after all...
i wish the prosecution would pay HALF as much attention to detail as those of us on this website do.. looks like lee was pro bono until the state was picking up the tab, now.. he is going to be paid 150.00 an HOUR and 75.00 an HOUR when he is on an airplane.. WTF??
bang up job digging that one up julie.. wish the judge could be privvy to this interview!!!
i wish the prosecution would pay HALF as much attention to detail as those of us on this website do.. looks like lee was pro bono until the state was picking up the tab, now.. he is going to be paid 150.00 an HOUR and 75.00 an HOUR when he is on an airplane.. WTF??
bang up job digging that one up julie.. wish the judge could be privvy to this interview!!!

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Julie, just as a side note, I read yesterday a comment posted by an attorney that although an expert witness (HL) may have started out as pro bono, he is not bound by that.
Convenient, though, don't you think, that he starts out as pro bono (IMO for the notoriety), then when the state is picking up the tab decides it's a good time to be paid.....
Convenient, though, don't you think, that he starts out as pro bono (IMO for the notoriety), then when the state is picking up the tab decides it's a good time to be paid.....
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Snaz, interesting, I didn't know that. (Don't forget the crate of oranges in between Pro Bono & the money.)
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sitemama.. i just saw your post about the guy in the wheelchair NOT being BC.. i am really glad you cleared that up, cause i was SUPER confused.
i thought he looked a little different, but i guess i am just so use to BC sitting there in his wheely, that i just assumed it was him. and i was under the impression that he was paralyzed, and this guy certainly was not..
dont mind me, i am just the tired one, that is usually 2 steps behind everyone else.
i thought he looked a little different, but i guess i am just so use to BC sitting there in his wheely, that i just assumed it was him. and i was under the impression that he was paralyzed, and this guy certainly was not..
dont mind me, i am just the tired one, that is usually 2 steps behind everyone else.

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Jose Baez in baffling performance outside courthouse
posted by halboedeker on May, 7 2010 4:11 PM
Jose Baez had a pretty good day in court yesterday as Casey Anthony’s attorney. But you wouldn’t have known that afterward when he walked away from reporters outside the courthouse.
It was a baffling moment in this long-running Anthony saga. Baez asked reporters not to follow him to his car and put that request specifically to WFTV-Channel 9’s hard-driving Kathi Belich.
She wouldn’t agree to his request, so Baez walked away. From everyone.
The result: Reporters followed him in a pack, but he made no comment of value.
It was simply strange. Why would Baez miss a chance to cite his successes in front of Chief Judge Belvin Perry? Why would Baez let his reactions to Belich color his dealings with the press corps? (She’s just trying to do her job, and she doesn’t represent the entire media.) Why would Baez give his detractors more ammunition to complain about his style?
Maybe next time Baez should let defense attorney Cheney Mason handle the questions. Mason knows how to handle pressure and pesky reporters. They can come in handy when you have a good story to tell.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-jose-baez-in-baffling-performance-outside-courthouse.html
posted by halboedeker on May, 7 2010 4:11 PM
Jose Baez had a pretty good day in court yesterday as Casey Anthony’s attorney. But you wouldn’t have known that afterward when he walked away from reporters outside the courthouse.
It was a baffling moment in this long-running Anthony saga. Baez asked reporters not to follow him to his car and put that request specifically to WFTV-Channel 9’s hard-driving Kathi Belich.
She wouldn’t agree to his request, so Baez walked away. From everyone.
The result: Reporters followed him in a pack, but he made no comment of value.
It was simply strange. Why would Baez miss a chance to cite his successes in front of Chief Judge Belvin Perry? Why would Baez let his reactions to Belich color his dealings with the press corps? (She’s just trying to do her job, and she doesn’t represent the entire media.) Why would Baez give his detractors more ammunition to complain about his style?
Maybe next time Baez should let defense attorney Cheney Mason handle the questions. Mason knows how to handle pressure and pesky reporters. They can come in handy when you have a good story to tell.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-jose-baez-in-baffling-performance-outside-courthouse.html
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I thought that whole scenario make him look immature & obnoxious!
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Julie, Bozo does that on a daily basis.

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Taphonomy
Posted on May 6th, 2010 by Valhall
I’m going to make this relatively brief compared to other posts I’ve written on the various topics of forensics. The purpose of this article is just to straighten out the confusion around what an expert in taphonomy is, and what they could bring to the defense team.
When Jose Baez brought up that one of the experts they have on their list was an expert in taphonomy, Judge Perry did a do what. Jose Baez’s response was that it was an expert in human decomposition. That’s true, but it’s not a completely correct way to phrase it…we’ll get to that later. Mr. Ashton objected (to some extent) stating that taphonomy is not a recognized forensic specialty. While that, again, is true, it’s not a completely correct way to phrase it either. So let’s get straight what an expert in taphonomy would be, and why the defense is wanting to include one on their list.
Taphonomy is an over-arching study of the HOLISTIC study of the human (or even animal) decomposition process and the environment. Within taphonomy is included forensic pathology, forensic anthropology, forensic botany, forensic entomology, and a host of other forensic fill-in-the-blank areas. In the old world of engineering (say back in the Gemini phase of the space program) you had electrical engineers, mechanical engineers, aerospace engineers, hydraulic engineers, among many others, and then you had what was called a “system engineer”. These days “system engineer” tends to point to an IT specialist (someone specialized in programming and computer systems), but back in the day “system engineer” meant something else. The system engineer’s job was to integrate all the work of all the specialty engineers working on a project. So for a Gemini space module, the system engineer had to possess a wide berth of knowledge in all systems and how they interfaced and affected each other, and then he worked as a team lead over the various engineers to integrate an operative and successful complete “system”. This is how you should view an expert in taphonomy when it comes to the various forensic experts associated with analyzing decomposition events.
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http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/05/06/taphonomy/
Posted on May 6th, 2010 by Valhall
I’m going to make this relatively brief compared to other posts I’ve written on the various topics of forensics. The purpose of this article is just to straighten out the confusion around what an expert in taphonomy is, and what they could bring to the defense team.
When Jose Baez brought up that one of the experts they have on their list was an expert in taphonomy, Judge Perry did a do what. Jose Baez’s response was that it was an expert in human decomposition. That’s true, but it’s not a completely correct way to phrase it…we’ll get to that later. Mr. Ashton objected (to some extent) stating that taphonomy is not a recognized forensic specialty. While that, again, is true, it’s not a completely correct way to phrase it either. So let’s get straight what an expert in taphonomy would be, and why the defense is wanting to include one on their list.
Taphonomy is an over-arching study of the HOLISTIC study of the human (or even animal) decomposition process and the environment. Within taphonomy is included forensic pathology, forensic anthropology, forensic botany, forensic entomology, and a host of other forensic fill-in-the-blank areas. In the old world of engineering (say back in the Gemini phase of the space program) you had electrical engineers, mechanical engineers, aerospace engineers, hydraulic engineers, among many others, and then you had what was called a “system engineer”. These days “system engineer” tends to point to an IT specialist (someone specialized in programming and computer systems), but back in the day “system engineer” meant something else. The system engineer’s job was to integrate all the work of all the specialty engineers working on a project. So for a Gemini space module, the system engineer had to possess a wide berth of knowledge in all systems and how they interfaced and affected each other, and then he worked as a team lead over the various engineers to integrate an operative and successful complete “system”. This is how you should view an expert in taphonomy when it comes to the various forensic experts associated with analyzing decomposition events.
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From the Trials & Tribulations website:
Long Hearing, Lots Accomplished: The murder trial of Casey Anthony.
Thursday, May 6, 2010
Judge Perry appeared on the bench promptly at 9:00 AM this morning. What followed was a long hearing with a lot of detail. What matters most here, is what the defense will be allowed to spend.
As in the previous hearing, the attorneys for both sides were asked to formally introduce themselves to the court. For the prosecution, the usual people were there, Linda Drane-Burdick, Jeff Ashton, and Frank George.
On the defense side were Jose Baez and Michelle Medina. Cheney Mason joined the defense team later in the hearing.
JAC attorney Brad Bischoff was also in attendance today.
Rachel Fugate was there to represent the Orlando Sentinel.
Judge Belvin Perry asked to start with the MOTION concerning expert witnesses first.
Jose Baez requested to deal with the MOTION to seal JAC documents first. Judge Perry agreed.
Baez began by passing out copies of page 43 of the JAC policy and procedure manual and noted that it stated that in limited circumstances, records can be kept under seal.
He pointed out that an indigent defendant has the same rights as solvent decedent.
Baez indicated that there was no alternative to sealing documents to provide Ms. Anthony with a fair trial.
He stated that he could imagine the “floodgates” that would open if public knew every time they filed a motion concerning finances. There was mention of "tabloids" and "leeches"!
He indicated that the Orlando Sentinel has ordered commissary records, the amount of money Casey has in her jail account. They had published "anniversary stories" and what she orders from the commissary. He went on to recite a list of goodies Casey has ordered, and went on to say that the records MUST be sealed and Orlando Sentinel must find another way to sell newspapers.
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http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/05/long-hearing-lots-accomplishments.html
Long Hearing, Lots Accomplished: The murder trial of Casey Anthony.
Thursday, May 6, 2010
Judge Perry appeared on the bench promptly at 9:00 AM this morning. What followed was a long hearing with a lot of detail. What matters most here, is what the defense will be allowed to spend.
As in the previous hearing, the attorneys for both sides were asked to formally introduce themselves to the court. For the prosecution, the usual people were there, Linda Drane-Burdick, Jeff Ashton, and Frank George.
On the defense side were Jose Baez and Michelle Medina. Cheney Mason joined the defense team later in the hearing.
JAC attorney Brad Bischoff was also in attendance today.
Rachel Fugate was there to represent the Orlando Sentinel.
Judge Belvin Perry asked to start with the MOTION concerning expert witnesses first.
Jose Baez requested to deal with the MOTION to seal JAC documents first. Judge Perry agreed.
Baez began by passing out copies of page 43 of the JAC policy and procedure manual and noted that it stated that in limited circumstances, records can be kept under seal.
He pointed out that an indigent defendant has the same rights as solvent decedent.
Baez indicated that there was no alternative to sealing documents to provide Ms. Anthony with a fair trial.
He stated that he could imagine the “floodgates” that would open if public knew every time they filed a motion concerning finances. There was mention of "tabloids" and "leeches"!
He indicated that the Orlando Sentinel has ordered commissary records, the amount of money Casey has in her jail account. They had published "anniversary stories" and what she orders from the commissary. He went on to recite a list of goodies Casey has ordered, and went on to say that the records MUST be sealed and Orlando Sentinel must find another way to sell newspapers.
Read more:
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/05/long-hearing-lots-accomplishments.html
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I have to wonder if Perry would have found Casey indigent as easily as Strickland did.
There was $163,000 unaccounted for during the hearing with Strickland, and I know Strickland heard where it went in private with Baez, but it's doubtful Baez produced any sort of details about where the money went. Strickland probably assumed it was just gone in general, as Baez no doubt told him, and didn't push the issue.
I wonder if Perry had been judge then if he could have told him if he didn't show where the money went in detail then he was going to assume it was still available...and deny indigent status until Baez came up with some records.
ETA: Come to think of it, could that large amount have been taxes Casey had to pay on her mass fortune from ABC?
There was $163,000 unaccounted for during the hearing with Strickland, and I know Strickland heard where it went in private with Baez, but it's doubtful Baez produced any sort of details about where the money went. Strickland probably assumed it was just gone in general, as Baez no doubt told him, and didn't push the issue.
I wonder if Perry had been judge then if he could have told him if he didn't show where the money went in detail then he was going to assume it was still available...and deny indigent status until Baez came up with some records.
ETA: Come to think of it, could that large amount have been taxes Casey had to pay on her mass fortune from ABC?
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Yeah, no way they'd have paid taxes on that anyhow. They weren't due yet so they probably spent it and then would just claim to the IRS that Casey was indigent. LOL
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