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Going through the comment sections on the various newspapers, we occassionally come across a post where you have to wonder if the poster actually knows the family, since they seem to "know" things.
This particular comment, I find very interesting.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_mother_desiree_y_1/4053/comments-8.html
Poster: insintel ("Inside Intel")
July 14, 2010 at 11:38PM
Loose lips sink ships!
Des and Tony suspected Kyron was being abused yet chose to ignore it. Terri suspected it also. Why do you think she was taking him to the doctor on the down low?
They blame Terri for not taking an active role to find Kyron, but why didn't his OWN MOTHER take an active roll to prevent him from being sexually abused further?
This particular comment, I find very interesting.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_mother_desiree_y_1/4053/comments-8.html
Poster: insintel ("Inside Intel")
July 14, 2010 at 11:38PM
Loose lips sink ships!
Des and Tony suspected Kyron was being abused yet chose to ignore it. Terri suspected it also. Why do you think she was taking him to the doctor on the down low?
They blame Terri for not taking an active role to find Kyron, but why didn't his OWN MOTHER take an active roll to prevent him from being sexually abused further?

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Poster: insintel
July 14, 2010 at 11:57PM
Ahh but Desiree knows deep down inside... she just isn't ready to "believe" it yet.
She's too wrapped up in hating Terri. Jealous because she snagged her hubby. Desiree wasn't as involved as she likes to make people think. I can count on one hand the number of overnight visits she's had with her kid in the last 3 years.
Poster: insintel
July 14, 2010 at 11:57PM
Ahh but Desiree knows deep down inside... she just isn't ready to "believe" it yet.
She's too wrapped up in hating Terri. Jealous because she snagged her hubby. Desiree wasn't as involved as she likes to make people think. I can count on one hand the number of overnight visits she's had with her kid in the last 3 years.

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Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:05AM
Nooooo sir.. or ma'am.
The custody agreement states Des has visitation which is supposed to be every other weekend, shared holidays and 2 weeks for summer break.
She's seen him for big holidays like Christmas and Easter and typically over the 4th of July. They rarely see him on weekends.. maybe 3 or 4x in the last 3 years.
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:05AM
Nooooo sir.. or ma'am.
The custody agreement states Des has visitation which is supposed to be every other weekend, shared holidays and 2 weeks for summer break.
She's seen him for big holidays like Christmas and Easter and typically over the 4th of July. They rarely see him on weekends.. maybe 3 or 4x in the last 3 years.

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I found this one interesting from the same person...talking about Kiara....
I don't think he'd molest her.. no.
He's not very patient though.. I see him melting down the second she screams or makes a mess out of something.
I KNEW Kaine was a hothead! That poor baby girl! Minus her mother's loving arms PLUS a short tempered dad.
I'll bet it's Kaine's idea that Kyron can't get out of his bed in the morning until someone comes and tells him it's ok.
I don't think he'd molest her.. no.
He's not very patient though.. I see him melting down the second she screams or makes a mess out of something.
I KNEW Kaine was a hothead! That poor baby girl! Minus her mother's loving arms PLUS a short tempered dad.

I'll bet it's Kaine's idea that Kyron can't get out of his bed in the morning until someone comes and tells him it's ok.
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Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:19AM
No.. it wasn't often at all. It seemed like as more time went by, the less frequent the visits were. Her and Tony kind of had their own thing going on. Terri pretty much kept him busy though so it wouldn't be a constant let down. On a Thursday he would start getting ready to go see his mom, but by Friday, there was always a reason why they couldn't make the trip (half way) so Terri would always take him out some where with a friend from school on a Friday night. I guess to occupy him so he would "forget"
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:19AM
No.. it wasn't often at all. It seemed like as more time went by, the less frequent the visits were. Her and Tony kind of had their own thing going on. Terri pretty much kept him busy though so it wouldn't be a constant let down. On a Thursday he would start getting ready to go see his mom, but by Friday, there was always a reason why they couldn't make the trip (half way) so Terri would always take him out some where with a friend from school on a Friday night. I guess to occupy him so he would "forget"

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Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:13AM
Mike inserted himself right after Kyron went missing... He most definitely wasn't involved with Kyron going missing.. no.
I'm not sure WHAT his true intention is/was. I think it was more or less: He hears on the news that a old school buddy's kid goes missing, he wants to jump in to help, Kaine pretty much blew him off from the get go and it offended him. Naturally him and Terri became close because she's more outgoing than Kaine. Kaine was pretty rude to everyone who was offering to help (in the beginning anyway, his lawyer advised him to make himself look more grateful to put on a show for the camera)
Mike is a decent guy, he just should have walked away when Kaine kept shutting the door in his face.
His relationship with Terri was blown WAY out of proportion! Those "pictures in various states of undress" were shots of Terri back when she was doing competitions and getting modeling pics done (she didn't model, but got a portfolio done) there were no naked body parts and I'm sure if you googled hard enough, you could even find those pics or ones similar. Those were also pictures of pictures.. meaning he took a pic of a pic with his cell phone camera.
As for the google maps and RO, I think he meant well, but was just so completely STUPID about it. Terri never went to him and asked him to find out anything.. HE wanted to find out the info and bring it to Terri... like a cat bringing it's master a mouse head.
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:13AM
Mike inserted himself right after Kyron went missing... He most definitely wasn't involved with Kyron going missing.. no.
I'm not sure WHAT his true intention is/was. I think it was more or less: He hears on the news that a old school buddy's kid goes missing, he wants to jump in to help, Kaine pretty much blew him off from the get go and it offended him. Naturally him and Terri became close because she's more outgoing than Kaine. Kaine was pretty rude to everyone who was offering to help (in the beginning anyway, his lawyer advised him to make himself look more grateful to put on a show for the camera)
Mike is a decent guy, he just should have walked away when Kaine kept shutting the door in his face.
His relationship with Terri was blown WAY out of proportion! Those "pictures in various states of undress" were shots of Terri back when she was doing competitions and getting modeling pics done (she didn't model, but got a portfolio done) there were no naked body parts and I'm sure if you googled hard enough, you could even find those pics or ones similar. Those were also pictures of pictures.. meaning he took a pic of a pic with his cell phone camera.
As for the google maps and RO, I think he meant well, but was just so completely STUPID about it. Terri never went to him and asked him to find out anything.. HE wanted to find out the info and bring it to Terri... like a cat bringing it's master a mouse head.

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Calypso wrote:http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_mother_desiree_y_1/4053/comments-2.html
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:05AM
Nooooo sir.. or ma'am.
The custody agreement states Des has visitation which is supposed to be every other weekend, shared holidays and 2 weeks for summer break.
She's seen him for big holidays like Christmas and Easter and typically over the 4th of July. They rarely see him on weekends.. maybe 3 or 4x in the last 3 years.
I believe that one! I don't see her taking every other weekend with a child...and additionally making that long trip twice during the weekend.
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Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:31AM
Wait until the media gets a hold of the security video and still shots of Kaine at the gym and Tennis court! Talk about letting the cat out of the bag! I know for a fact that they were shown to him and he was asked if his "alternative lifestyle" could have pissed anyone off enough to harm his child ;)
Perhaps that's why he's so antsy around the cameras?
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:31AM
Wait until the media gets a hold of the security video and still shots of Kaine at the gym and Tennis court! Talk about letting the cat out of the bag! I know for a fact that they were shown to him and he was asked if his "alternative lifestyle" could have pissed anyone off enough to harm his child ;)
Perhaps that's why he's so antsy around the cameras?

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Calypso wrote:http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_mother_desiree_y_1/4053/comments-3.html
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:13AM
Mike inserted himself right after Kyron went missing... He most definitely wasn't involved with Kyron going missing.. no.
I'm not sure WHAT his true intention is/was. I think it was more or less: He hears on the news that a old school buddy's kid goes missing, he wants to jump in to help, Kaine pretty much blew him off from the get go and it offended him. Naturally him and Terri became close because she's more outgoing than Kaine. Kaine was pretty rude to everyone who was offering to help (in the beginning anyway, his lawyer advised him to make himself look more grateful to put on a show for the camera)
Mike is a decent guy, he just should have walked away when Kaine kept shutting the door in his face.
His relationship with Terri was blown WAY out of proportion! Those "pictures in various states of undress" were shots of Terri back when she was doing competitions and getting modeling pics done (she didn't model, but got a portfolio done) there were no naked body parts and I'm sure if you googled hard enough, you could even find those pics or ones similar. Those were also pictures of pictures.. meaning he took a pic of a pic with his cell phone camera.
As for the google maps and RO, I think he meant well, but was just so completely STUPID about it. Terri never went to him and asked him to find out anything.. HE wanted to find out the info and bring it to Terri... like a cat bringing it's master a mouse head.
This makes better sense to me than Terri being stupid while she's being closely watched.
Thanks for this link....and thread! 8)
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No clue 
I have zero knowledge of who took him
Like I said about Terri, being made out to be a certain way or doing certain things doesn't make her a kidnapper/murderer. So, I can't really say that Kaine is responsible because he's a certain way... know what I mean?
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_mother_desiree_y_1/4053/comments-5.html
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 2:39AM
I don't want to think that he had anything to do with it. His actions could certainly be because of things that happened in the past that he's trying so desperately to cover up. I DO think thought that it was someone who Kyron knew of or has seen before. Not necessarily close to the family, but perhaps an acquaintance who was stalking him? I'm afraid what exactly happened to Kyron will forever be a mystery

I have zero knowledge of who took him

Like I said about Terri, being made out to be a certain way or doing certain things doesn't make her a kidnapper/murderer. So, I can't really say that Kaine is responsible because he's a certain way... know what I mean?
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_mother_desiree_y_1/4053/comments-5.html
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 2:39AM
I don't want to think that he had anything to do with it. His actions could certainly be because of things that happened in the past that he's trying so desperately to cover up. I DO think thought that it was someone who Kyron knew of or has seen before. Not necessarily close to the family, but perhaps an acquaintance who was stalking him? I'm afraid what exactly happened to Kyron will forever be a mystery


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And again, here's the one you read, Lottie:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_mother_desiree_y_1/4053/comments-5.html
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 2:31AM
I don't think he'd molest her.. no.
He's not very patient though.. I see him melting down the second she screams or makes a mess out of something.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_mother_desiree_y_1/4053/comments-5.html
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 2:31AM
I don't think he'd molest her.. no.
He's not very patient though.. I see him melting down the second she screams or makes a mess out of something.

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Interesting! I have no doubt they were sucky biological parents, but I still think the school scenario is too difficult to pull off the kidnapping. I still see it being a crime of opportunity. Maybe by someone who knows him, but not prearranged, just a chance to do it, and someone took it.

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I think it was a crime of opportunity too. This just confirms how sucky Larry, Moe and Curly are.

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"alternative lifestyle"
Is this person trying to say Kaine is "gay"? OMG, I hope so, and it's one of his 'fellows' that took Kyron, trying to get Kaine to commit to him. LOL
This is getting too funny.

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Poster: insintel
July 14, 2010 at 11:51PM
For the record -
I'm not a Terri supporter. She is a lovely person, a bit on the uppity side. and not my cup of tea.. but amazing with kids. I can't say much more.
I am a supporter of calling those out who are guilty and trying to make other people look guilty. It will all come out in the wash my friends... in time... all in good time. Both parties are equally guilty of the failed marriage but only ONE is guilty of causing harm to this child (and it's not Terri) Don't forget, there are people out here who know Kyron, know his demeanor and know when something is wrong. We know certain things by little bits of info that children leak out unknowingly ;)
His mother and step father know this too.
Poster: insintel
July 14, 2010 at 11:51PM
For the record -
I'm not a Terri supporter. She is a lovely person, a bit on the uppity side. and not my cup of tea.. but amazing with kids. I can't say much more.
I am a supporter of calling those out who are guilty and trying to make other people look guilty. It will all come out in the wash my friends... in time... all in good time. Both parties are equally guilty of the failed marriage but only ONE is guilty of causing harm to this child (and it's not Terri) Don't forget, there are people out here who know Kyron, know his demeanor and know when something is wrong. We know certain things by little bits of info that children leak out unknowingly ;)
His mother and step father know this too.

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Poster: 42ndState
July 14, 2010 at 11:54PM
so why are they blaming terri if they know what kaine has done?
Poster: insintel
July 14, 2010 at 11:59PM
Good question. THAT i don't know... I'm thinking denial?
Des has always hated Terri. More out of jealousy than anything.
Poster: 42ndState
July 14, 2010 at 11:54PM
so why are they blaming terri if they know what kaine has done?
Poster: insintel
July 14, 2010 at 11:59PM
Good question. THAT i don't know... I'm thinking denial?
Des has always hated Terri. More out of jealousy than anything.

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Poster: 42ndState
July 15, 2010 at 12:22AM
When did LE clear anyone, including kaine, as a suspect??? The truth deniers are the ones propagating that lie.
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:27AM
Exactly how do you all know that he isn't being investigated?
He hasn't been ruled out or cleared yet! Why do you think he's dropping out of his media gigs? There has been tips from more than one person, including school employees that the child has been showing signs of sexual abuse for quite a while. Grandpa was a perv... molested him and his brother.. his brother gets 6 months for child molestation... coincidence? Nooo
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:23AM
Ban us... why?
Because we aren't in on the witch hunt? Because we are here stating our opinions. Some of us know a little more going on behind the scenes... and when it all comes out, All I can say is "I told ya so"
I hope you all are ready to eat your hats!
Poster: 42ndState
July 15, 2010 at 12:22AM
When did LE clear anyone, including kaine, as a suspect??? The truth deniers are the ones propagating that lie.
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:27AM
Exactly how do you all know that he isn't being investigated?
He hasn't been ruled out or cleared yet! Why do you think he's dropping out of his media gigs? There has been tips from more than one person, including school employees that the child has been showing signs of sexual abuse for quite a while. Grandpa was a perv... molested him and his brother.. his brother gets 6 months for child molestation... coincidence? Nooo
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:23AM
Ban us... why?
Because we aren't in on the witch hunt? Because we are here stating our opinions. Some of us know a little more going on behind the scenes... and when it all comes out, All I can say is "I told ya so"
I hope you all are ready to eat your hats!

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I'm just going to post the rest of insintel's posts. They are very interesting and seems like someone close to the case, in the know.
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:47AM
Muddy indeed girlfriend.
And, ya know what they say about mud? It always comes out in the wash
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:59AM
I just saw something on TV the other day... it was one of those "Life in prison" shows.. This dude was locked up for 30 years for first degree murder (still looked surprisingly young for his age too) and he was cleared/eliminated through DNA and was released that day. He was convicted because of speculation (last one to "see" victim, having an affair with victim (victim was his mistress) They were able to hunt down the real killer, but he died in another prison 10 years prior.
30 years of that man's life wasted... all because of circumstantial evidence and because he was made to look like a horrible person.
Not all cases are as cut & dry as the Anthony & Peterson circumstantial evidence convictions. Usually the most likely person is the one who gets blamed, but what the public is failing to realize is that the woman being fingered in THIS case might have a sketchy track record, but she's not a killer. She raised someone else's kid 'cause they didn't want anything to do with him and this is the thanks she gets.
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 12:47AM
Muddy indeed girlfriend.
And, ya know what they say about mud? It always comes out in the wash
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July 15, 2010 at 12:59AM
I just saw something on TV the other day... it was one of those "Life in prison" shows.. This dude was locked up for 30 years for first degree murder (still looked surprisingly young for his age too) and he was cleared/eliminated through DNA and was released that day. He was convicted because of speculation (last one to "see" victim, having an affair with victim (victim was his mistress) They were able to hunt down the real killer, but he died in another prison 10 years prior.
30 years of that man's life wasted... all because of circumstantial evidence and because he was made to look like a horrible person.
Not all cases are as cut & dry as the Anthony & Peterson circumstantial evidence convictions. Usually the most likely person is the one who gets blamed, but what the public is failing to realize is that the woman being fingered in THIS case might have a sketchy track record, but she's not a killer. She raised someone else's kid 'cause they didn't want anything to do with him and this is the thanks she gets.

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Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:03AM
I thought so too...
It can't stay quiet forever. I'm willing to bet those guys at the gym would easily roll 'em over for a couple $ Unless of course, they're sealed evidence.
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:08AM
Oh reaaaaaaally... is that right?
If that is the case, then why are there 10000's of slanderous posts against a certain other person.. I guess THOSE kind are ok though.
Interesting how that works.
Fixing my punctuation for the cameras... Does my overuse of ellipses make my butt look fat?
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:03AM
I thought so too...
It can't stay quiet forever. I'm willing to bet those guys at the gym would easily roll 'em over for a couple $ Unless of course, they're sealed evidence.
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:08AM
Oh reaaaaaaally... is that right?
If that is the case, then why are there 10000's of slanderous posts against a certain other person.. I guess THOSE kind are ok though.
Interesting how that works.
Fixing my punctuation for the cameras... Does my overuse of ellipses make my butt look fat?

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July 15, 2010 at 1:17AM
It's 1am. I just finished off a round of... um.. pokerbw/ the spouse and I had a craving for bacon.. So, I decided to jump online to check my email and lo and behold... I have email alerts that there is breaking news on the Kyron Horman case. Pffft!
I've been around all along honey.. I never felt the need to dish because I thought it was blatantly OBVIOUS... but I guess some people are slow to catch on... or they don't want to catch on because the other option is more exciting. Let's see what new juicy gossip will come out today on the step mom.. so we can go to our social networking pages and chat over tea.
If I wanted to dish, oh boy could I dish! But nobody listens anyway... so why bother
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July 15, 2010 at 1:37AM
I've been sitting on my hands for weeks... can't take it anymore.
It's all gonna come out anyway ;)
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:27AM
No
I don't think he's at a safe house. I *WISH* he would be though.. It would certainly make me sleep better.
I can't go into great detail about the doctor/paperwork in public.. make up a fake email address and post it so I can email you about it.
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:47AM
That, I don't know
I can only speak for the time leading up. I'm 100% sure it wasn't Terri though. She may be guilty of other things... but harming or hiding this child? NO way. Just keep an open mind and wait for the other side of the story to come out.. You'll see it too
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:33AM
Um... I'm the wife :/
Chicks get late night post nookie bacon cravings too yanno...
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:17AM
It's 1am. I just finished off a round of... um.. pokerbw/ the spouse and I had a craving for bacon.. So, I decided to jump online to check my email and lo and behold... I have email alerts that there is breaking news on the Kyron Horman case. Pffft!
I've been around all along honey.. I never felt the need to dish because I thought it was blatantly OBVIOUS... but I guess some people are slow to catch on... or they don't want to catch on because the other option is more exciting. Let's see what new juicy gossip will come out today on the step mom.. so we can go to our social networking pages and chat over tea.
If I wanted to dish, oh boy could I dish! But nobody listens anyway... so why bother
Poster:insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:37AM
I've been sitting on my hands for weeks... can't take it anymore.
It's all gonna come out anyway ;)
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:27AM
No

I don't think he's at a safe house. I *WISH* he would be though.. It would certainly make me sleep better.
I can't go into great detail about the doctor/paperwork in public.. make up a fake email address and post it so I can email you about it.
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:47AM
That, I don't know

I can only speak for the time leading up. I'm 100% sure it wasn't Terri though. She may be guilty of other things... but harming or hiding this child? NO way. Just keep an open mind and wait for the other side of the story to come out.. You'll see it too
Poster: insintel
July 15, 2010 at 1:33AM
Um... I'm the wife :/
Chicks get late night post nookie bacon cravings too yanno...

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