DeDe Spicher

I don't know why we havent started a thread on her!

Does anyone remember Kaine stating Dede came into Terri's life like every 6 months?

Well, I find it strange that the MFH plot and Kyron's disappearance are within that time
frame.

I am posting this on another forum and will bring my post here.

In my most humble opinion, I still believe Terri Horman had too much to loose in the Terri did it scenario. I don't know Terri personally, so I can't say weither her odd behavior is normal. After all, we can just assume how we would react in this horrific circumstance.

This brings me to an alternative theory/speculation.

What if Dede Spicher is the lone culprit, unbeknown to Terri.

Spicher, knowing Kaine and Terri had had issues, this crisis would either bring Kaine and Terri closer together in this crisis, or would sever their relationship.

Spicher moved in with Terri after Kaine moved out for a short time.

Perhaps she was hoping, since she didn't have any children herself, Spicher and Terri could raise Kiara together.
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Since Kaine moved out and Terri has been going through of of this insanity, Spicher moves in and helps support Terri emotionally, becoming the "Hero".

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If you want to get technical, it appears that Terri was the nurturing type. She came into this family raising James and taking care of Kyron. Teaching was her profession.

Her ex husband has said Terri wouldn't hurt a child.

Terri appears to maintain a strong family connection with her adoptive parents.

Photos show Terri at a birthday dinner/party with Greg, Desiree's ex husband, on Quinn's 15th birthday with Kyron, James, Kiara, herself, and Quinn.

Kaine, Desiree nor Tony are at this party for Quinn at a Red Rooster. I'm sure Terri had other things she could have been doing.

On the other hand, we don't know too much about Dede, other than she disappeared during a certain time frame, didn't answer her phone (her ex said Dede ALWAYS answers her phone- sure, it could have been dead, she lost it temprorarily, it was left in the car, at the jobsite, etc..)

We do know Dede didn't have any children and wasn't interested in them.
She popped in and out of Terri's life at approx 6 month intervals- according to Kaine.
Could Dede have come back into Terri's life to insert herself into the situation to keep up with the details of the case?

Could this LS guy been a friend of Dede's? Could Dede have been putting the MFH plot out there saying Terri wanted him to do this? It certainly would fit the timeline Kaine said "every 6 months" or so Dede would come back into Terri's life.

Motive? Terri was a married woman, lived in the families home, had a nice car and didn't have to work. Has/had children who loved her and depended on her.

Dede, rented her place, her relationship recently broke up and Dede has to work to support herself. Dede really didn't have anything other than her growing up relatives-. After the FAILED episode with the MFH Sting Operation, Dede moved in with Terri.

Could she have been jealous of Terri? Absolutely.

What was Kaines relationship with Dede?

How did they meet Dede? Was Dede involved in the alternative lifestyle?

Was Kaine ever involved with Dede sexually?

Was Dede ever involved with both Kaine and Terri sexually?

When it was alleged that Kaine hurt Terri, exactly how was Terri hurt?

(What would hurt a woman so deeply, that she would solict a murder for hire scheme? Giving her AIDS/HIV, Herpes/ impregnating another woman/ setting up a lover in an apartment? Telling her he is gay and is in love with another man.)

Could Dede have a possessive type relationship when it comes to Terri?

And my apologes to whomever, Terri had the traditional stay at home mother, nurturing life while Dede had the more aggressive, working out in the fields all day rough physical type job. Terri also appeared to be the oil that kept things running smoothly by transporting Kyron back and forth between Kaine and Desiree and keeping Desiree informed through emails.

There is always a fine line between truth and fiction. Flip the coin over. Just saying Terri did this because she's crazy is ridiculous.

'Mystery Woman' DeDe Spicher Defends Stepmom in Kyron Horman Case

By Elaine Aradillas
Tuesday August 17, 2010 09:45 AM EDT

Since 7-year-old Kyron Horman went missing in June DeDe Spicher has been called everything from uncooperative to suspicious. But Spicher, the so-called "mystery woman" in the case, says she's just a good friend of Kyron's stepmom's, and that neither of them has anything to hide.

Asked by PEOPLE in an exclusive new interview whether she thinks stepmom Terri Horman was involved in Kyron's disappearance, Spicher, 43, says, "I just really don't. In my heart, I really don't. In all of these years [as her friend], I have not seen anything that would lead me to believe that she is capable or motivated in any way to do something like this."

Spicher says she's told police the same thing. "They wanted me to tell them that Terri did it or that Terri knew something," she says. "I told them everything that I knew, over and over again. But I didn't tell them what they wanted to hear."

Read more: http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20413527,00.html

Dede states she never left the property that day while preparing for the garden show at the farm.....

Piper wrote:Dede states she never left the property that day while preparing for the garden show at the farm.....

So when did she have lunch? Because apparently that's why they were looking for her at 11:15 or whatever & couldn't contact her. She said previously that she left her phone at home that day (which should be easy enough to verify), but we were also told that they looked for her and couldn't find her either.

I'm not sure what to think.

So when did she have lunch? Because apparently that's why they were looking for her at 11:15 or whatever & couldn't contact her.

KJ, what do you mean 'that's why they were looking for her at 11:15? Were they going to have lunch with her? Who is they? When I hire someone to do my yardwork, I don't care if they eat lunch or not, as they would get finished sooner. LOL

Have we ever heard from the ones who say they were looking for her? Or have we only heard what D & K said LE told them? All these 'stories' from D & K are making me very

sitemama wrote:

So when did she have lunch? Because apparently that's why they were looking for her at 11:15 or whatever & couldn't contact her.

KJ, what do you mean 'that's why they were looking for her at 11:15? Were they going to have lunch with her? Who is they? When I hire someone to do my yardwork, I don't care if they eat lunch or not, as they would get finished sooner. LOL

Have we ever heard from the ones who say they were looking for her? Or have we only heard what D & K said LE told them? All these 'stories' from D & K are making me very

Oh CRUD! I don't remember...I guess we should start googling!

My recollection is that she was INTERNING (not lanscaping) for a nursery on the farm (which is also a residence).

The people that she was interning w/ (and possibly for) were expecting her to join them in the house for lunch. When she didn't show they tried to find her & couldn't.

This was her original missing time: 11:15-1 (something like that).

Then they were questioned I guess and LE changed her timeline to 'unaccounted for' 9:45-1, because the last time anyone had any encounter with her was at 9:45.

The farm is 38-acres.

I'm just trying to go in chronological order. This was the first we heard about Dee Dee:

Friend Of Kyron's Family Subject Of Search Warrant

(7/23/10) There are new developments in the Kyron Hormon investigation. A long-time friend of the boy's family has become a focus in the case.According to Kyron's parents, Dee Dee Spicher of Tualatin has been in close communication with Kyrons stepmother Terri Moulton Hormon, since the day Kyron disappeared. The family released a statement Thursday night saying Spicher is not cooperating with detectives. NBC Portland affiliate KGW TV reported Spicher's home and two others were searched by law enforcement in the last week. According to Medford Police Lt. Bob Hansen, search warrants have to fit certain criteria in order to be obtained. "To get a search warrant you have to prove to a judge, I have enough evidence to get a search warrant and go in." But Hansen also warns that "just because a search warrant is obtained doesn't mean the person is guilty." He says you don’t always find what your looking for.

As you can see, this is another 'tip' from the bios. They think something is awry if Terri talks to anyone, because they don't have anyone to talk to but each other.

Sick Sick Sick

Ok, I got it a bit mixed up, but here's one from a day earlier:

Detectives learned that Spicher, who shares Terri Horman's passion for fitness and gardening, was doing gardening work for a Northwest Portland homeowner on June 4. She abruptly left the house about 11:30 a.m. and didn't return until an hour to 90 minutes later.

Another person working at the home called Spicher to come in for lunch, and the homeowner called Spicher on her cell phone but she wasn't reachable. Detectives have questioned both the homeowner and the other person who was working at the home that day.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/investigators_put_pressure_on.html

1. "Detectives learned" from the bios.

2. "She abruptly left", who said it was abruptly. No one saw her leave abruptly.

3. "an hour to 90 minutes later" that is a big time difference, don't you think?

4. "homeowner called Spicher on her cell phone" she has already said she left her phone at home. Which also proves Terri could not have gotten in touch with her that morning either.

GET OVER IT

Why doesn't LE get out and look for Kyron, instead of letting D & K run their case for them?

I just looked for the next article that changed her 'unaccounted for' time to 3+ hours, but I can't find it and need to step away. The kids are starting to find new & fun things to occupy themselves...

Oh...but what about the batphones???

http://www.kgw.com/news/Who-is-DeDe-Spicher-99118324.html

http://www.kgw.com/home/DeDe-Spicher-99077874.html

ok, gotta fly...

Thanks KJ, I was just searching for those....

I cant believe the power that is given to LE and the media.. To think that many ppl are convinced that Terri or DeDe had something to do with this when there is just no motive..

It is crazy to think that these 2 ppl wud snuff out a life for no reason and believe that they cud get away with it, where they have so much to lose...

A perp on the otherhand has nothing to lose at all.. This abduction seems to be more consistent with a perp having been in the school then Kyrons step mom, or a family member having anything to do with this..

It is just so crazy to see how many ppl actually seem convinced and for no reason.... I cant wrap my head around it..

In the meantme LE is sitting back waiting... It seems predictable that pretty soon someone will be coming forward telling LE how one of them confessed... Of course it will prolly be someone in need of leveridge where they too will be believed by the majority...

Im so glad that there are so many impartial ppl on this board, who arent easily led.. It makes for great reading.. and collective creative thinking..

AJ, I know what you mean! I have been attacked and blasted for even considering any alternatives elsewhere. I don't see the logic behind Terri and DeeDee, but I could be wrong. Like you, I think a random perp did this.

Help jog my memory- I don't remember LE specifically saying she was gone for 3 hours, or an hour and a half for that matter. I think this is all unsubstaniated rubbish. It could very well be possible that working on what sounds like a large property getting ready for a flower/garden show, DeDe may have worked through lunch. Her truck never left the property. She left her cell phone at home. She didn't hear the call for lunch or decided to work through it? I just dunno........

I am very skeptical that she ws gone 3 hours (or even the 1-1/2)------- has LE ever said this?

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LE ain't said JACK! They only drop stuff to Kaine and Des and let them do the talking.