I don't know about George....

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by mindseye on Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:15 am

To lay out a complete story and place doubt in the jurors mind, Baez still has to ask (imply in questioning of George) where the body was from the time of drowning to the time of being put in the trunk (I believe he'll imply it was placed in the freezer by George to protect himself/Casey as they were supposed to be watching her while Casey was getting ready for her fictional job) - George then took the key to freezer saying it was misplaced/lost - then after a time frame, made it appear as a murder w/duct tape, Casey then placing the heart on it to say her goodbyes, then placed in the trunk (by George) - taken to the woods (by George) - then found by Kronk. The prosecution already said it doesn't appear to have been moved, the vertibrae were still all in alignment from being placed there. Why would Kronk move the body anyway.... if he wanted to report finding it - he would just report it as he did. Why delay it by moving her, waiting, then reporting it... just don't see that as making sense or being any benefit to him.

I think he'll imply George told Casey to shut up about it (from all her years of abuse and being scared she listened to him) - and to come up with reasons why Cindy/he couldn't see or speak to Caylee (she was so good at lying) that he didn't want the police coming to their house with the body in the freezer and to wait until he figured out what to do with her before telling anyone in the family she was gone and to act as normal as possible (thus the dancing diva) then finally lay the bomb that Caylee had been gone for 31 days and she had been looking for her on her own.

Baez, Implying a complete scenerio through questioning regardless if George says no to everything, and even if completely false - will place this in the jurors mind to create reasonable doubt since no one can say for sure if she was overdosed, suffocated by duct tape, or drowned.
We'll for what it's worth... that's my prediction.... let's see how this plays out Shocked

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by mindseye on Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:34 pm

now... this comes out on HLN tonight.... . George's cell phone record from 2008.... where has this been???

"WKMG also reported that the defense wants to learn more about Vasco Thompson, who was sentenced to prison for kidnapping. “According to the defense, this man had an unexplained relationship with George Anthony, Casey Anthony’s father,” WKMG’s Mike DeForest reported. The defense says the two men communicated by cell phone in 2008, and DeForest said the defense wants to depose Thompson.

Of course George says he doesn't know him, but I heard verbally it was 4 calls to Vasco's number on his cell records.
Still believe George is a slime ball and involved....

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by FystyAngel on Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:52 pm

HLN reported that there were 4 calls between the two. Also, the date was July14, 2008. The day before Caylee was reported missing.

In chat a little while ago, someone pointed out that this was investigated (years ago) and found to be a wrong number. I haven't seen any timeline as to how long the calls were or anything of that sort. Guess I'll have to wait until he's called by the defense (unless someone can please point this out to me). Thanks in advance.

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by mindseye on Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:59 pm

yea Fystey.... I heard that too... George says it was a wrong number.... but 4 times??? and you know how believable I think George is LOL...
the call duration will be very interesting!

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by Julie on Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:21 pm

This was at WS, post #19.

They didn't get Vasco T's records IMO. They are looking at George's records. The number for not-Vasco (see my posts above) is 407-4*5-3082. The first contact was George calling this number on July 9, 2008 when he had to drive down to (IIRC) Celebration, FL for his brand-new job. Then George texted the number July 14 at 10:22 am, when IIRC he was supposed to be travelling again to Celebration and gave his employer some story about a traffic problem and instead stayed in Orlando--IMO to try to figure out WTF Casey was doing. George received a short (12-character) response text from this number at 1:32 pm, and responded again by text at 2:49 pm. The number then called George July 19 at 11:08 am--probably George's work trying to figure out when and if he would be returning to his job--and texted him on July 24 at 5:32 pm.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140350

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by Julie on Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:24 pm

And this one....

I just found some old emails I was exchanging with another WS'er on this subject. Apparently I determined that Vasco T's true number was 407-2*6-3082 instead of 407-4*5-3082. (Yes, the stars stand for the same # lol.) But at some point his number got recorded in a public records database incorrectly and got mixed up with the other number.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140350&page=2
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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by Julie on Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:26 pm

And...

George didn't have the wrong number. He was really calling someone from his new job. But a couple of public records databases have the wrong number for Vasco T. It only takes one wrong entry in those databases, and then they multiply like rabbits.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140350&page=4
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A WS poster named AZlawyer did a terrific job researching this.

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by goldenmain on Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:19 pm

I think all these points are great ladies. Very possible. We'll see.

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by sitemama on Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:27 pm

BUT, the most important point is that the number GA was calling was not even assigned to Thompson at the time. He did not get that number till early 2009, therefore he doesn't even need to testify.

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by mindseye on Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:49 pm

I don't think goldenmain is referring to the cell phone issue... which is a non-issue any longer, but to all the possible scenerios discussed on this forum discussing "George".

Still waiting to see what Baez has to present to solidify his opening.....

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by mindseye on Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:11 pm

There's more to this.... more than just crazy sociopath Casey. The mere fact that duct tape remains attached to the skull when the skin it was attached to has decomposed.... screams there is much more detail we don't know yet and may never know. The jury can roll their eyes all they want.... but they need to think very seriously about that.

One more comment about "George"....
I haven't heard any talk about this but do you recall Baez saying to George (this was when Caylee was a baby)....
he said "you moved out of the house for a time, this was because Casey didn't want you there". Of course George said that is not why he moved out it was other problems with Cindy. But my point is....

I think Baez is going to say Casey was afraid George would sexually abuse her little girl as he had done to her.

Now.... what "if" George is a child abuser. What if he "was" abusing Caylee. She was starting to communicate well at her age... what "if" he took her in the pool that morning and "let her drown" because she was starting to say things about it. Then blaming Casey for not watching her.

I know.... this is all off the deep end of thought. But in this case "nothing" is too far fetched to consider.

I don't think we'll ever really know for sure.... the decision will be based on what makes most sense to the jury of the information presented to them... and in this case "what makes most sense" is probably the farthest from the actual truth.

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by Julie on Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:15 pm

Anything is possible, but I just don't see George as ever molesting anybody.

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by ronald mascot on Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:31 pm

I don't think George is involved, there is not even a hint of that in the jailhouse tapes. I do think he might have had a mistress, pretending to have a job, etc., we know he is not particularly bright losing money in that online scam, but I don't think he was involved in anything with Casey. He would have called 911, you hear stories of people who seem dead but aren't- I think even Casey would have called 911, I don't think Caylee was in the pool, something else happened, only Casey knows and she's crazy and not telling, but I don't think George is involved.

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by mindseye on Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:10 am

I'm not buying this break down today....
not one tear - just lot's of expressions, squeezed eyes, wiping tears... I didn't see any.... hand to mouth to hold in sobs... I didn't hear any. I think this was a well thought out show of emotion knowing the difficult questions would come today.

He made sure everyone knew the suicide attempt was not "alleged".... that was for sympathy. Now hear are the questions rambling in my brain.
1. It's said, his suicide note said he had unanswered questions so he must not have had anything to do with it.
I think that was the plan.

2. Why would a cop, whose grandaughter was missing, who smells human decomposition in the car trunk not immediately call the police?

3. It's said, well if he had bought a gun and as he says it was so he could go to friends of Casey's to force them to tell him what they know.... he must not be involved. I say it was part of his plan to show he was not involved.

4. When asked about the affair.... he was quick to say every detrimental thing he could about her before being stopped so the jury would hear it.

Casey looked at him with contempt today.

I see the opposite side of everything George says...

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Re: I don't know about George....

Post by mindseye on Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:01 am

Tim Miller, founder of Texas Equusearch has much to say tonight about the Anthony family. After meeting them, and interacting and talking to them that first day he knew that the family.... all of them.... Cindy, George, Casey, all knew Caylee was dead.

He pulled out of that search. And to this day has a very bad taste in his mouth because of all those days they let those searchers work on their behalf... all the while knowing she was already dead.


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