State has not proven its case ??

After hearing all of the testimony/evidence presented by the State, I still have quite a bit of reasonable doubt to convict Casey of Murder 1. Other charges quite possibly but not M1.

I am, of course, still awaiting to hear and see the defense case.

I believe in our system and still believe "innocent until PROVEN guilty." So far, not enough proof Casey actually killed her child.

Agreed

I believe the state has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Caylee's remains were inside Casey's trunk. They have proven that Casey searched for chloroform and visited the same site on how to make chloroform 84 times. They have proven that Caylee's dead body was in the backyard at some point and they have a witness who says he saw her backed into the garage on June 18th. They have proven that Casey backed her car into Amscot near a dumpster with the keys in the ignition and purse on the front seat and lied about being out of gas two days after complaining to Amy about a horrible smell in the car. They have proven that Casey told three phony stories about the last time she saw Caylee. First she said she left her with Zanny at Sawgrass apartments, then she said Zanny took Caylee from her at Jay Blanchard Park, then she said George found Caylee dead in the pool and walked into the house with her body in his arms on June 16th. They have proven that concealing a child's body and duct taping her face is consistent with a homicide. There is no reasonable doubt in my mind.

I agree with you J4a. So, with 2 to 2, does that make for a hung jury? LOL

Unfortunately mama, it only takes one to hang the jury. The defense seems to want a mistrial, but all that accomplishes is that Casey sits in jail and awaits a new trial.

Sorry Mama, but I agree with the first two. I think the only thing that has really been proven is that Caylee's dead little body had been in the trunk. I also think they have proven that the duct tape was used in three places...gas can (by GA), Caylee, and the posters (again GA). I think there is reasonable doubt all over the place. VERY SAD!

And now to top it all off....we haven't even heard the defense yet! I know for a fact that sexually abused children...as the get older...do act as KC has acted.

My oldest daughter was molested by a family friend, when she was about 5 yrs old. IMO, she still has problems. (She'll kill me for revealing this) but a couple of years ago, she was raped by an ex boyfriend but never reported it. Instead, she's STILL friends with the son of a bitch!

It will be interesting to see how the jury feels. I think to establish reasonable doubt, the defense would have to come up with a plausible scenario for someone else planting Caylee's body in Casey's trunk for at least three days between June 16th, the last day Caylee was seen, and June 25th, the day Casey started complaining about the smell, and then dumping her body in the woods. I think any scenario they could come up with would be far fetched and they probably won't have any witnesses to corroborate it. It's not the defense's burden to prove Casey's innocence, but to establish reasonable doubt, I believe it is their burden to explain why she was driving around with her dead child in her trunk for at least three days. I think their downfall will be that they won't even admit that Caylee's body was in the trunk.

No reasonable doubt in my mind, either. I am related to a sexually abused child by a relative and I can tell you right now, there is no way she would let another child be exposed to it.

The defense story is abhorrent...they make me sick.

No reasonable doubt in my mind either.

I like the way the prosecution cut out all the drama and went straight for the throat.

Having followed this since day 1 and after reading many blogs and watching different theories get dissected, and after doing multiple google searches on the internet for the last 2+ years, I'm wondering what happened to so many of the witnesses that I expected to be called, and some of the possible evidence. Seems to me there was a key or keychain found at the scene which might have matched up with Lee telling Casey that he "got rid of" Amy's extra car key. Then there was the rumor of the A's getting rid of their washer and dryer, everyone speculated that the old ones could still be confiscated and investigated for DNA evidence. There was also a rumor of a chunk of drywall supposedly with acidopere on it being removed from the A's garage. The missing diary pages, the '03 or '08 entry in the remaining diary/journal, some kind of news articles or letters found in a box in the A's attic, the whole who is Caylee's dad thing, the theory that "something" plugged up the A's plumbing in July '08, and the theory that the A's found something in their yard in July '08, both of which sent Cindy into a panic, and searching for Casey. Lee asking Casey "Is this like the last time?" and she says "no", Lee kissing his wrist at Caylee's memorial, and promising to keep his promise to CMA, Casey telling C&G, "Don't worry, I didn't say anything", the tattoo. The theory that Casey was using the name ZFG for herself. The theory that their was a "Zanny" ID in Casey's purse, that LE took. The fact that Caylee was found bet (house numbers) 9 & 1, (Casey's drop off time), with the house owners being "F Gonzalez" and the other "Zenaida". The Annie Downing/ZG speeding ticket thing, and who showed up in person to pay ZG's fine?. Whatever Lee had to say that got him immunity, George's GJ testimony, George's suicide note. Who was Dom Casey talking to on the phone while searching the area where Caylee was later found? Gracious! The list goes on and on and on, all stuff that I thought would be cleared up in the trial. There was also speculation that there was a fingerprint on one of the pieces of duct tape, and that they were saving that info for the trial.
Maybe I just read too many blogs, lol.

and the gator aid bottle with a syringe of chloroform

Julie wrote:Having followed this since day 1 and after reading many blogs and watching different theories get dissected, and after doing multiple google searches on the internet for the last 2+ years, I'm wondering what happened to so many of the witnesses that I expected to be called, and some of the possible evidence. Seems to me there was a key or keychain found at the scene which might have matched up with Lee telling Casey that he "got rid of" Amy's extra car key. Then there was the rumor of the A's getting rid of their washer and dryer, everyone speculated that the old ones could still be confiscated and investigated for DNA evidence. There was also a rumor of a chunk of drywall supposedly with acidopere on it being removed from the A's garage. The missing diary pages, the '03 or '08 entry in the remaining diary/journal, some kind of news articles or letters found in a box in the A's attic, the whole who is Caylee's dad thing, the theory that "something" plugged up the A's plumbing in July '08, and the theory that the A's found something in their yard in July '08, both of which sent Cindy into a panic, and searching for Casey. Lee asking Casey "Is this like the last time?" and she says "no", Lee kissing his wrist at Caylee's memorial, and promising to keep his promise to CMA, Casey telling C&G, "Don't worry, I didn't say anything", the tattoo. The theory that Casey was using the name ZFG for herself. The theory that their was a "Zanny" ID in Casey's purse, that LE took. The fact that Caylee was found bet (house numbers) 9 & 1, (Casey's drop off time), with the house owners being "F Gonzalez" and the other "Zenaida". The Annie Downing/ZG speeding ticket thing, and who showed up in person to pay ZG's fine?. Whatever Lee had to say that got him immunity, George's GJ testimony, George's suicide note. Who was Dom Casey talking to on the phone while searching the area where Caylee was later found? Gracious! The list goes on and on and on, all stuff that I thought would be cleared up in the trial. There was also speculation that there was a fingerprint on one of the pieces of duct tape, and that they were saving that info for the trial.
Maybe I just read too many blogs, lol.

Hmm...some of that is news to me. Interesting. I wish they'd clear all that mess up too, but most of it seems to implicate the entire family in a coverup. Maybe we'll hear about it later if they arrest more Anthonys on this.

Justice4all wrote:I believe the state has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Caylee's remains were inside Casey's trunk. They have proven that Casey searched for chloroform and visited the same site on how to make chloroform 84 times. They have proven that Caylee's dead body was in the backyard at some point and they have a witness who says he saw her backed into the garage on June 18th. They have proven that Casey backed her car into Amscot near a dumpster with the keys in the ignition and purse on the front seat and lied about being out of gas two days after complaining to Amy about a horrible smell in the car. They have proven that Casey told three phony stories about the last time she saw Caylee. First she said she left her with Zanny at Sawgrass apartments, then she said Zanny took Caylee from her at Jay Blanchard Park, then she said George found Caylee dead in the pool and walked into the house with her body in his arms on June 16th. They have proven that concealing a child's body and duct taping her face is consistent with a homicide. There is no reasonable doubt in my mind.

Agree with you 100%!!!

Only doubt I do have is if she had help covering it up. Even if her parents, Lee, Tony helped her does not mean there was not a murder.

Wait, Casey was complaining about the smell herself - where has THIS been as a headline over and over in the press all of this time?

I am curious about the monkey letter (from jail). Did Casey write that? If so I can't believe the prosecution would not bring that in!!!!

PamalaSmith wrote:Wait, Casey was complaining about the smell herself - where has THIS been as a headline over and over in the press all of this time?

Amy Huizenga testified about this and also mentioned it in her interview with the OCSO on July 23, 2008.

"She (Casey) had told me that there was this horrible smell in her car and she couldn’t figure out what it was. And then like as the days progressed, it may have been more than two days. But I know it was at least more than one day that she talked to me. So it had to have been at least two days that she told me about this smell in her car. And she uhm, you know like the next day it was just so much worse. She was like I think maybe my dad ran something over with my car when he borrowed it and it, it smells like something died in my car. And uhm, but she had mentioned the engine as being the source of the smell."

Maggie, the monkey letter, from what I understand, was a "joke" that Casey apparently liked and saved. (But still weird.)

I had a weird feeling today when I saw Cindy "mouth" to Casey on her way out.... "I love you". It was like she was saying... "it's ok... it will be over soon... I love you".

I thought my God the whole family is in on this cover up Baez will be presenting on his defense. I felt Cindy, George, Lee, they all have had to testify and they know it didn't sound good for Casey, but they had to because you couldn't get around the facts that had been proven. She "was" in the trunk, the blanket, the laundry bag, and on and on. But her mouthing "I love you" made me feel all of them know that Baez will be implicating George in the defense portion to the degree the jury will be so full of reasonable doubt with the details Baez will bring up .... they feel it will be impossible to charge Casey with murder.

"They have proven that concealing a child's body and duct taping her face is consistent with a homicide."
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This is also consistent with the intent to make it appear as a homicide if the child had drowned and they wanted to cover that fact to protect themselves.

mindseye wrote:"They have proven that concealing a child's body and duct taping her face is consistent with a homicide."
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This is also consistent with the intent to make it appear as a homicide if the child had drowned and they wanted to cover that fact to protect themselves.

According to Dr. G and common sense, it wouldn't be reasonable to make an accidental drowning look like a homicide. The defense has to establish a reasonable doubt. Throwing out a bunch of far-fetched, unlikely scenarios with no testimony or evidence to back them up does not establish reasonable doubt.