George better be watching over his shoulder....
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George better be watching over his shoulder....
As I've said all along... and I still believe, George is involved. He was lying on the stand.
I heard a phone interview on HLN with an alternate juror. He would have voted the same way the jury did for many reasons.... and one being he felt George was lying and covering something up.
I know this isn't popular.... but a couple weeks ago I said I thought the entire family knows exactly what happened and that Baez was possibly pulling off an ingenious defense. He wasn't as polished as Ashton, but he did bring in doubt to every aspect the prosecution brought in. Including the computer experts, pathologist, chloroform, etc.
I'm not saying Casey is innocent, but what is she guilty of? I feel strongly she was on the computer that morning and George was doing who knows what. Caylee kept asking to go swimming, and finally did.... alone. George, being an x-cop knew they could both be charged with felony child neglect if a child dies from neglect while in your supervision. George, being a cop, certainly didn't want that and took matters into his own hands to make it appear as a murder. That's where it snow balled out of control.
So I do feel the baby was in the trunk for several days while he tried to figure out what to do. I think he told Casey to shut up and act as if nothing is wrong and to keep Cindy at bay for as long as possible when she would ask to see Caylee. Casey being such a liar, this was easy for her. And at the end of 31 days when she couldn't keep Cindy at bay any longer, came up with the kidnapping story.
Tim Miller of Equusearch said he knew right away from talking to the Anthony's they all knew Caylee was dead. He pulled his company off that search as soon as he could so he could help others across the country that were "really" searching for loved ones.
If I were George, I'd be looking over my shoulder to see who's watching his every move and checking up on him more thoroughly. He may be up on that stand sooner than he ever imagined.
I heard a phone interview on HLN with an alternate juror. He would have voted the same way the jury did for many reasons.... and one being he felt George was lying and covering something up.
I know this isn't popular.... but a couple weeks ago I said I thought the entire family knows exactly what happened and that Baez was possibly pulling off an ingenious defense. He wasn't as polished as Ashton, but he did bring in doubt to every aspect the prosecution brought in. Including the computer experts, pathologist, chloroform, etc.
I'm not saying Casey is innocent, but what is she guilty of? I feel strongly she was on the computer that morning and George was doing who knows what. Caylee kept asking to go swimming, and finally did.... alone. George, being an x-cop knew they could both be charged with felony child neglect if a child dies from neglect while in your supervision. George, being a cop, certainly didn't want that and took matters into his own hands to make it appear as a murder. That's where it snow balled out of control.
So I do feel the baby was in the trunk for several days while he tried to figure out what to do. I think he told Casey to shut up and act as if nothing is wrong and to keep Cindy at bay for as long as possible when she would ask to see Caylee. Casey being such a liar, this was easy for her. And at the end of 31 days when she couldn't keep Cindy at bay any longer, came up with the kidnapping story.
Tim Miller of Equusearch said he knew right away from talking to the Anthony's they all knew Caylee was dead. He pulled his company off that search as soon as he could so he could help others across the country that were "really" searching for loved ones.
If I were George, I'd be looking over my shoulder to see who's watching his every move and checking up on him more thoroughly. He may be up on that stand sooner than he ever imagined.
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Hi mindseye - in my opinion, Casey Anthony would never take the blame for anyone, especially her father.

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Hi ~ I don't think she did take the blame for anyone, or for herself. I think she told Baez early on what happened. He just couldn't find any witnesses, or proof to involve George to put on stand to back up her word. And we all know her word isn't worth squat on it's own. George would have denied it anyway. We'd just be back to the "who's telling the truth" game.
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Piper wrote:Hi mindseye - in my opinion, Casey Anthony would never take the blame for anyone, especially her father.
ITA. She despises her father waaay too much to take the rap for him-after all, the jury could have found her guilty and given her the DP. She would have been screaming her friggin' head off if George was in on it. She would have loved for her father to go down and get the hell out of her life.

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She wasn't taking the rap for him. She ratted on him to Baez immediately. But it was her word against him. That's why she looked at him with contempt as he did his melt down act. Not one tear really fell down that man's face.
Improper disposal of a body is not killing Caylee, nor is drowning. But both are chargeable offenses.
Improper disposal of a body is not killing Caylee, nor is drowning. But both are chargeable offenses.
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Hopefully, if George knows what's best, he'll hit the high road and never look back...I don't like to see families break up but what KC has done to her family is unforgiveable...He needs to get a backbone and a job and get his proverbial shit together...If it means the big DIVORCE then so be it...He washed his hands of KC and if I were him I wouldn't stick around emasculating Cindy any longer than I had to...I wish him luck...

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I don't wish him luck persay... I wish he'd tell the truth.
If he did insist they cover it as a murder to protect them both from prosecution.... then it's his fault she was charged with murder, it's his fault she was put in the swamp instead of notifying authories and calling 911 when she drowned. His intent was it to appear neither of their faults for not watching her, but to appear as a murder by probably her kidnapper. When she was charged, she told Baez what happened. George threw her under the bus and denied any involvement.
If he did insist they cover it as a murder to protect them both from prosecution.... then it's his fault she was charged with murder, it's his fault she was put in the swamp instead of notifying authories and calling 911 when she drowned. His intent was it to appear neither of their faults for not watching her, but to appear as a murder by probably her kidnapper. When she was charged, she told Baez what happened. George threw her under the bus and denied any involvement.
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Surely you were joking, mindseye...

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nope.... not joking. If in fact she did drown, and he did want it covered up to save their butts from felony neglect and told Casey it was best for both of them, then the cover up is his fault. etc. etc.
But on the other hand, she could have drowned with only Casey there not paying attention to her and this was all her idea to make it look like a kidnapping/murder... or she could have actually killed her. We will just never know.
But on the other hand, she could have drowned with only Casey there not paying attention to her and this was all her idea to make it look like a kidnapping/murder... or she could have actually killed her. We will just never know.
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Caylee was last seen with her mother, and as far as i'm concerned her mother is responsible for whatever happened to her...whether it be intentional or accidental...

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well of course she is responsible for Caylees safety. She was last seen with her by.... George.
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I understand your theory Mindseye and see how it could be possible. Even if Casey did despise her father it's still very possible that she despised him less than the thought of going to jail for felony neglect or whatever it's called.
It's not all that unreasonable to believe that Caylee possibly drowned and Casey would have been charged with neglect but Daddy George came up with the whole murder plot in order to save Casey from jail.
If someone I hate tells me ...."go along with this idea it will save you or don't go along with it and end up in prison for years"...I doubt my dislike for that person would get in my way of saving myself.
However that said...it still doesn't explain to me all the chloroform searches and duct tape...found on Caylee,
I just can't for the life of me find it conceivable that a mother could tamper with her child's dead body, putting duct tape on her and heart stickers and whatever else was done to that poor child.
Was there ever a determination made that Caylee was actually in the pool the day she died? any proof of this?
I think Casey likely Chloroformed Caylee, put the tape on her for in case she woke up so she couldn't scream and cry and get found in a trunk while the foul tramp went out and partied. That's just my take on it but only the Anthony's know the truth.
The whole thing is just so sad and disgusting. It will be interesting to watch what Karma will befall this family in the future.
It's not all that unreasonable to believe that Caylee possibly drowned and Casey would have been charged with neglect but Daddy George came up with the whole murder plot in order to save Casey from jail.
If someone I hate tells me ...."go along with this idea it will save you or don't go along with it and end up in prison for years"...I doubt my dislike for that person would get in my way of saving myself.
However that said...it still doesn't explain to me all the chloroform searches and duct tape...found on Caylee,
I just can't for the life of me find it conceivable that a mother could tamper with her child's dead body, putting duct tape on her and heart stickers and whatever else was done to that poor child.
Was there ever a determination made that Caylee was actually in the pool the day she died? any proof of this?
I think Casey likely Chloroformed Caylee, put the tape on her for in case she woke up so she couldn't scream and cry and get found in a trunk while the foul tramp went out and partied. That's just my take on it but only the Anthony's know the truth.
The whole thing is just so sad and disgusting. It will be interesting to watch what Karma will befall this family in the future.

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Martine,
If the first pathologist had tested the bone marrow, diatodes (spelling?) which indicate drowning would have been present. But she was all about if it looks like a duct and walks like a duck it must be a duck. (duck tape and bagging it must be a homicide) which is what it was supposed to look like.
The computer searches show someone was on the computer/facebook at the time Casey says George was holding the drowned baby in his arms. Just recently a woman was convicted for being on facebook and her child drowned. George may have dosed off on the sofa or who knows what.
Even if Casey was alone with her at the time, in a panicked state and knowing the rath that would occur from her parents she may have done anything to make it look like something else. But I still think George "was" there and involved in the cover up.
In fact, last night on CNN one of the jurors said "The prosecution's inability to prove who was Caylee's caretaker at the time of her death, Casey Anthony or the girl's grandparents, doomed the manslaughter charge, Juror No. 2 said."
I'm not sure I believe chloroform was ever really used. It is highly explosive and you need almost a chemist lab to produce it. Nothing was ever found to indicate it was made and you know they would have searched for a receipt of any kind purchasing ingredients as well even ordering through the internet. The chloroform levels in the trunk were only that of household cleaners which Cindy used in the car.
The duck tape being attached to the skull has always bothered me. Dr. Spitz (and I agree with this) said the skin that is was taped to had decomposed and it would not have still been attached to anything. It had to be placed well after decomposure to be attached to a skull. It makes such sense. If you put a bandage on your finger and your skin becomes gone.... how would the bandage reattach to the bone of your finger....
I too believe in Karma.... their life as they knew it is over and what becomes that family, whoever did this or was involved I think will be one filled with pain and remorse.
If the first pathologist had tested the bone marrow, diatodes (spelling?) which indicate drowning would have been present. But she was all about if it looks like a duct and walks like a duck it must be a duck. (duck tape and bagging it must be a homicide) which is what it was supposed to look like.
The computer searches show someone was on the computer/facebook at the time Casey says George was holding the drowned baby in his arms. Just recently a woman was convicted for being on facebook and her child drowned. George may have dosed off on the sofa or who knows what.
Even if Casey was alone with her at the time, in a panicked state and knowing the rath that would occur from her parents she may have done anything to make it look like something else. But I still think George "was" there and involved in the cover up.
In fact, last night on CNN one of the jurors said "The prosecution's inability to prove who was Caylee's caretaker at the time of her death, Casey Anthony or the girl's grandparents, doomed the manslaughter charge, Juror No. 2 said."
I'm not sure I believe chloroform was ever really used. It is highly explosive and you need almost a chemist lab to produce it. Nothing was ever found to indicate it was made and you know they would have searched for a receipt of any kind purchasing ingredients as well even ordering through the internet. The chloroform levels in the trunk were only that of household cleaners which Cindy used in the car.
The duck tape being attached to the skull has always bothered me. Dr. Spitz (and I agree with this) said the skin that is was taped to had decomposed and it would not have still been attached to anything. It had to be placed well after decomposure to be attached to a skull. It makes such sense. If you put a bandage on your finger and your skin becomes gone.... how would the bandage reattach to the bone of your finger....
I too believe in Karma.... their life as they knew it is over and what becomes that family, whoever did this or was involved I think will be one filled with pain and remorse.
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They never said the tape was stuck to the bones. They said it has been wrapped around the face and adhered to the hair, which it still was attached to the hair.
You tell me, who the hell could hold up that skull, after it was completely skeletonized, and wrap tape around it? Where did they keep the skull until it was devoid of skin, but still have hair?
This is so far over the edge, no sane person could even think about doing this.
You tell me, who the hell could hold up that skull, after it was completely skeletonized, and wrap tape around it? Where did they keep the skull until it was devoid of skin, but still have hair?
This is so far over the edge, no sane person could even think about doing this.

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Since none of us saw the pictures, they kept saying it was covering the nose, mouth and holding on the mandible.... who knows.
This is insane.... but you wouldn't have to lift up the skull, only roll it face up to place the tape and roll it side to side to wrap it around. It makes no sense to do it and when it was placed there remains another "unknown" fact in this case.
Wouldn't know where the skull was in the interim, ... wasn't there. This is all supposition based on the information provided, just like the prosecution's case was
This is insane.... but you wouldn't have to lift up the skull, only roll it face up to place the tape and roll it side to side to wrap it around. It makes no sense to do it and when it was placed there remains another "unknown" fact in this case.
Wouldn't know where the skull was in the interim, ... wasn't there. This is all supposition based on the information provided, just like the prosecution's case was
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